# Shakespeare Mafia -- Act II **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 19, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082 "2025-07-19T15:30:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/161 "2025-07-24T17:43:22Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > I think we can wait and see whether AotN survives the night before bothering to get suspicious of her. šŸ™‚ This is a fair point. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/162 "2025-07-24T18:04:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Are you still teaching? Oh, yes, I have 6-7 years before retirement. I canā€™t believe Iā€™ve been on this board since just about exiting high school(AOL days) and will, Lord willing, be here when I retire from my career. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/163 "2025-07-24T19:28:41Z")
Does anyone want to give me suggestions on who to investigate? I will pick myself, of course, but there were a lot of people on here saying I might be wrong about Mahaloth, which I concede, but few people saying who else the last Villain might be. I am Town and I may be tunneling with my theory on Mahaloth, so Iā€™m open to suggestion but would like reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/164 "2025-07-24T19:29:40Z")
Good game, @Thing.Fish . You handled awkward circumstances with grace and style, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/165 "2025-07-24T20:12:56Z")
I suggest that randomness is your friend. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/166 "2025-07-24T20:19:50Z")
A good idea, and one that hadnā€™t occurred to me. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/167 "2025-07-24T21:03:47Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > BTW, for the Newbies, in a typical game the body count would be 3 minor Town players. Thanks for that - thatā€™s what I thought would be typical. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/168 "2025-07-24T21:05:48Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Does anyone want to give me suggestions on who to investigate? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I suggest that randomness is your friend. I suggest randomness tempered with some analysis (e.g. who didnā€™t vote for Thing Fishā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/169 "2025-07-24T21:11:20Z")
Only BicycleBill and Thing.Fish didnā€™t vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/170 "2025-07-25T02:05:57Z")
My first choice would be bicycle bill. He just reads as a newbie scum. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/171 "2025-07-25T08:34:35Z")
Also who has not revealed their character name? Although it may have been a newbie mistake, I announced as Travers before the significance became apparent. Minor town! ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/172 "2025-07-25T09:05:22Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Does anyone want to give me suggestions on who to investigate? I will pick myself, of course, but there were a lot of people on here saying I might be wrong about Mahaloth, which I concede, but few people saying who else the last Villain might be. Mahaloth still seems most suspicious. Other than him, maybe Dizzymrslizzy has a point about Bicycle\_Bill? I canā€™t think of anyone else who stood out to me. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/173 "2025-07-25T13:12:19Z")
Mahaloth always seems suspicious. Bicycle Bill looks typical Town to me. Scum, specifically if thereā€™s only one, will most probably try to just blend in. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/174 "2025-07-25T17:42:19Z")
Okay so donā€™t investigate bicycle bill. Angel great job. Even though it wasnā€™t the result you were expecting. Iā€™m glad that it worked out that Thing was lying! It was the most likely circumstance. From my POV Non confirmed Town but probable Town: Sun Prof Story Myself Angel Doing great and possible Town Mahaloth Demon Glee Neutral leaning Scum Bicycle I think thatā€™s everyone Weā€™ve already lost 2 town Powers Angel Iā€™m assuming we are losing you tonight. Iā€™d love for your assessment of the state of the game. Most everyone at this point seems townie to me. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/175 "2025-07-25T17:45:48Z")
Iā€™d like to get some feedback from Banquoā€™s Ghost, but I donā€™t think thatā€™s very likely. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/176 "2025-07-25T18:28:52Z")
Thereā€™s multiple possibilities why Angel can be alive tomorrow. Itā€™s not probable, but we havenā€™t come upon a doctor yet. A doctor can protect one person each night from a kill. This is the perfect scenario where Angel claimed cop, and wasnā€™t counter claimed by someone else. It usually means Angel is the only cop. So the doctor if there is one should be on her. A jailkeeper can jail a player, and prevent any night action from happening to them. A redirector can redirect an action to someone else. We already know this exist but I suspect the redirector is dead. Lastly, scum may roll the 1/10 chance she finds the last scum and leave her alive to make her seem guilty. So Iā€™m hoping to wake up to Angel alive. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/177 "2025-07-25T20:08:30Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Although it may have been a newbie mistake, I announced as Travers before the significance became apparent. Minor town! I donā€™t think revealing your character name is a newbie mistake - we had no idea early on what town powers there might be - but with AotN having a (possibly somewhat random, or redirectable) power to find character names, it becomes somewhat important for us to have a few unknown Town character names to be able to verify future actions. If AotN is a villain, It would be an extremely gutsy move to point the finger at Thing.Fish, a fellow villain, barring either (a) a fourth villain, or (b) a ā€œhail maryā€ play (when already down one villain) to gain unimpeachable credibility for the rest of the game, and then hope to herd a crowd of newbs into making the exact wrong move at the wrong time. I find both (a) and (b) to be unlikely, but neither is impossible - and having some unrevealed character names serves as a check on AotN. Worst-case scenario for town would be AotN collaborating behind the scenes to claim a fourth villain as a townie tonight, and a real townie getting dropped. That would give us 6v2 and then, Act III scenes 1 & 2 would likely drop us to 4v2, at which point a loss would be riding on the Act IV vote. I havenā€™t revealed my character name yet, nor has DemonTree (or yourself, glee). It would be good to have one more in store - maybe Iā€™ll look back through the last couple days and create a spreadsheet. > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Lastly, scum may roll the 1/10 chance she finds the last scum and leave her alive to make her seem guilty. > > So Iā€™m hoping to wake up to Angel alive. Yeah, thatā€™s all true. Iā€™m just saying that death would at least be wonderfully unsuspicious. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/178 "2025-07-25T21:02:27Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > I havenā€™t revealed my character name yet, nor has DemonTree (or yourself, glee) [Panto Voice ON] Oh yes, I have! **Travers** the name; Minor Town is the game! [Panto Voice OFF] ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/179 "2025-07-25T21:06:07Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Thereā€™s multiple possibilities why Angel can be alive tomorrow. Followed by your helpful analysis. šŸ•¶ > [@SunUp](#): > > Worst-case scenario for town would be AotN collaborating behind the scenes to claim a fourth villain as a townie tonight Agreed - but I would be surprised if there were 4 Villains. We have done extremely well to find two Villains so early - if the initial position was 9-4, Town could have lost in 3 days! šŸ˜Ø ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082/180 "2025-07-25T21:40:02Z")
> [@glee](#): > > > [@SunUp](#): > > > > I havenā€™t revealed my character name yet, nor has DemonTree (or yourself, glee) > > [Panto Voice ON] Oh yes, I have! **Travers** the name; Minor Town is the game! [Panto Voice OFF] Duh! And I even quoted that above! Should have gotten more sleep last nightā€¦ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-ii/1021082.md?page=10)