# Shakespeare Mafia -- Act III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 26, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358 "2025-07-26T15:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/41 "2025-07-28T12:55:57Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Also, have we reached the point where a mass claim might be useful? I’m not sure how useful it would be, but now would probably be the time if ever. I wonder what others are thinking about storyteller. Oddly, I find everything I am reading to seem very Town to me…which makes me at least somewhat suspicious. I’m kind of leaning storyteller or Dizzy right now. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/42 "2025-07-28T13:35:20Z")
My Town leans are Mahaloth, SunUp and storyteller. My Neutral leans are Dizzy and DemonTree. That just leaves: **vote glee**. More for lack of input and response than anything else. I could change my mind. Multivote does make searching vote records less effective for Town. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/43 "2025-07-28T13:46:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@storyteller0910](#): > > > > Also, have we reached the point where a mass claim might be useful? > > I’m not sure how useful it would be, but now would probably be the time if ever. We still have a vigilante; I don’t think we want to give away who that is, since even blind it could be an advantage for town? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/44 "2025-07-28T14:25:36Z")
Mahaloth 1 (glee 10) Dizzymrslizzy 1 (storyteller0910 34) DemonTree 1 (storyteller0910 34) glee 1 (Prof.Pepperwinkle 42) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/45 "2025-07-28T14:26:28Z")
Right. Town should almost never give away its power secrets. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/46 "2025-07-28T14:47:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > That just leaves: > **vote glee**. > > More for lack of input and response than anything else. I could change my mind. I say! 🧐 My posting record is: Act I 19 posts (including one replying to 5 different posters) Act II 15 posts (including one replying to 5 different posters) Act III 4 posts (including this one) Considering I’m a newbie and that there is obviously a group of players here who know each other well from many games of Mafia, I think I’m more than doing my bit. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/47 "2025-07-28T14:51:02Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Also, have we reached the point where a mass claim might be useful? I leave it to the more experienced players to decide that - but I have already claimed (in Act I -for convenience I am **Travers** , a minor character.) P.S. I did think of jokingly claiming a Shakespeare Villain, then crossing it out - but I really doubt that would go down well. 😨 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/48 "2025-07-28T15:16:49Z")
Since we know we have a vig, and we don’t want the vig’s identity known by the remaining Villain(s), I’m opposed to revealing any more character names. Any Villains will surely have found a minor character in the many works of Shakespeare to serve as a cover. Our vig could do the same, so what’s the point of revealing? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/49 "2025-07-28T15:23:37Z")
**unvote glee** Because of scrimson, scramson and scree. **vote DemonTree** ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/50 "2025-07-28T15:26:32Z")
Why me? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/51 "2025-07-28T15:27:09Z")
Why not? I’m poking for reactions. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/52 "2025-07-28T15:47:31Z")
Because I’m town so it would reduce our chances of winning. Though I’m kind of wondering how much effort to put into keeping the vigilante alive? I’m a little worried that the people I suspect might be vig instead of villain, so maybe it would be better not to highlight it? On the other hand, I know I’m not a villain, so probably I should just try to save myself. What happens if the vigilante and a villain are the last two alive at the end of a day? Do they each kill the other, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/53 "2025-07-28T15:49:41Z")
Yes, something like that. I don’t think it’s a likely ending, but it’s theoretically possible. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/54 "2025-07-28T16:05:32Z")
I’ll try and go through the previous days’ threads again this evening. Especially if this might be my last chance to give my opinion. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/55 "2025-07-28T16:35:50Z")
Hey, it worked on me. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/56 "2025-07-28T17:11:02Z")
Does anybody think there’s anything to the change of scenes by Day? D1 was Verona, D2 Athens, and today’s Venice. I can’t think of why that would make a difference, but I’m far from insightful. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/57 "2025-07-28T17:20:28Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Does anybody think there’s anything to the change of scenes by Day? Nope. I mean, I’ve seen nothing change. I’m guessing color is color. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/58 "2025-07-28T18:39:57Z")
Act I Scene 1 - Verona (_Romeo & Juliet_) Act I Scene 2 - Birnam Wood (The Scottish Play) - after the exile of Banquo, so related to the previous action Act II Scene 1 - Athens (_A Midummer Night’s Dream_, in theory could also be _Timon of Athens_ or, per Wikipedia, _The Two Noble Kinsmen_) - after losing Puck and Angelo, so related Act II Scene 2 - Elsinore Castle (_Hamlet_) - After exiling Macbeth, but with Hamlet in jeopardy, so possibly related? Act III Scene 1 - Venice (_The Merchant of Venice_ or _Othello_) - if my “Iago theory” is correct, might be related… I’m guessing Chronos is putting in whatever locale seems to provide the best fit to what’s happening in-game, in which case, thumbs up! But it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/59 "2025-07-28T18:45:50Z")
Thanks. I think Mahaloth is right, and it’s just colour. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358/60 "2025-07-28T20:12:41Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Also, have we reached the point where a mass claim might be useful? I’d still want to hold off on that, because there is one place where the name still affects the gameplay - in case of a tied vote, the last-named in alphabetical order gets the noose. Which lends itself to a brute-force solution - everyone votes for everyone else, everyone ties, and we start exiling people from the end of the alphabet up. If we have two townies higher in alpha order than the remaining villain, (and a third above a theoretical second villain, but that’s looking less likely), town wins. But (a) we would almost certainly first send away glee, who has claimed Travers and we have little reason to doubt that; (b) there are an awful lot of Shakespeare villains whose name starts with A (including Aaron, from _Titus Andronicus_, who is alphabetically tops of all - and of course we’ve already had Angelo) which might well protect the villains from such gamesmanship, and (c) if we ended up sending away a townie at dusk tonight, but there are two villains, the odds shift remarkably in their favor. If it seems like I’m trying to avoid behavioral analysis of the other six players, that’s because I am. But I see no way to avoid it, so maybe it’s time to bite the bullet… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iii/1021358.md?page=4)