# Shakespeare Mafia -- Act IV (Game Over) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 2, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iv-game-over/1021624 "2025-08-02T15:30:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 77
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iv-game-over/1021624/77 "2025-08-07T15:40:30Z")
I think repeating here what I just wrote in the spectator’s thread is OK: > [@Spectators' thread for Shakespeare Mafia (no active players, please)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-shakespeare-mafia-no-active-players-please/1020790/61): > > Another thing I want to observe is that when at the end of Day 1 I commented a list of possible powers that I did not know what my power was, but that I knew that it was none of the above nobody wondered how I knew that. There was a reason for me knowing that. I don’t know in retrospect whether I woud have given the reason if asked, but nobody even asked. > [@Spectators' thread for Shakespeare Mafia (no active players, please)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-shakespeare-mafia-no-active-players-please/1020790/72): > > Can you tell us the reason now? Now I can, so those were my instruccions: > [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1020778/1): > > You are Robin Goodfellow, a major character. > > ROBIN > I took him sleeping—that is finished, too— > And the Athenian woman by his side, > That, when he waked, of force she must be eyed. > OBERON > Stand close. This is the same Athenian. > ROBIN > This is the woman, but not this the man. > > - A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, scene 2, lines 40-44 > > Every night, you **may** target exactly two players. If I have to target two players or none, my power could not be any of the powers listed by **Thing.Fish** , because those powers only workd for one player: vig, name cop, doctor… And it was the word “target” which led my overthinking astray: I read “target” as an act that does harm, so it did not cross my mind that I could target myself and someone I thought a Villain. Claiming to be a major character and redirecting Scum’s killing towards someone I suspected to be Scum would have been a brilliant move. On the other hand, had I chosen myself and **Biotop** \* (instead of myself **Thing.Fish** , the best move, or **Mahaloth** , the other suspect I had in mind), who got targeted by **Dizzymrslizzy** , we would both be dead and nobody could have known that it was not those who thought they had killed each one of us who had indeed killed us, but a ricochet: Scum would have killed **Biotop** , not me, and **Dizzymrslizzy** would have killed me, not **Biotop**. But nobody would have been able to tell the difference. Only you, **AngeloftheNorth** , would have known that **Mahaloth** was Scum, but then you would not have known that **Thing.Fish** was Scum. Would that have been better? No idea. And as my power would have had no effect I would not have known what it was and the rest of the players would wrongly assume that I had not used it. But that would have had no consequences that I can see. > [@Spectators' thread for Shakespeare Mafia (no active players, please)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-shakespeare-mafia-no-active-players-please/1020790/66): > > And Kudos to Pardel-Lux for what may have been the game-winning play N1! The optimum move would have been targeting **myself** and **Thing.Fish**. Assuming you would have targeted **Mahaloth** (as you did) and **Dizzimrslizzy** had targeted **Biotop** (as she did), we would have won on Night 2. Sorry, it was not to be. I did not have enough beginner’s luck! I came close, but as they say in German: _Knapp daneben ist auch vorbei_. (**[DeepL](https://www.deepl.com/en/translator#de/en-us/Knapp%2520daneben%2520ist%2520auch%2520vorbei)** translates this as “close, but no cigar”. Which I in turn would rate as a “close, but no cigar” translation). \* To be frank, I was not suspecting **Biotop** at all, so it is unlikely that I would have picked him. But the consequences, had I done so, would have been what I have written. I believe. Probably. Yeah. Hum. [/quote] And I just see that I forgot to thank @Chronos for a very interesting experience. You put a lot of effort into this, it was a pleasure! Well done! Should you people play this game again I would like to participate again if you accept me. And I promise I will not give away that I am a major character on the very first night! Although I still think that a Scum role would be better adapted to my… 😈 inclinations. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-iv-game-over/1021624)._