# Shakira

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991 "2010-02-07T03:21:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/1 "2010-02-07T03:21:36Z")

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Been watching/listening to some Shakira videos lately. Wow. Good danceable pop, and Jesus Christ that woman can move. :eek:

If I’m interested in getting any of her albums, which would you recommend? I don’t mind Spanish language ones, though I don’t speak much of it.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/2 "2010-02-07T03:36:19Z")

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Her old stuff in spanish is rock, not pop. It is obviously much much better than the stuff she’s putting out now.

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**Author:** ![Liddle\_Lamsy\_Divey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@Liddle\_Lamsy\_Divey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liddle_Lamsy_Divey)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/3 "2010-02-07T04:22:42Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Her old stuff in spanish is rock, not pop. It is obviously much much better than the stuff she’s putting out now.

Agreed. Of her Spanish-language albums, my favorite is [Donde estan los Ladrones?](http://www.amazon.com/D%C3%B3nde-Est%C3%A1n-los-Ladrones-Shakira/dp/B00000DCVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1265516476&sr=1-1)

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/4 "2010-02-07T04:56:08Z")

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_Pies Descalzos_ is great if only for “Estoy Aqui,” possibly one of her best songs.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/5 "2010-02-07T05:28:09Z")

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I haven’t heard her Spanish stuff, but I’ve seen her cover rock songs live on some of the awards shows and, yeah, the girl can rock.

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/6 "2010-02-07T05:30:44Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I haven’t heard her Spanish stuff, but I’ve seen her cover rock songs live on some of the awards shows and, yeah, the girl can rock.

You definitely should check it out. She’s much more at ease in her native language, and it shows.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/7 "2010-02-07T05:55:24Z")

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Her album “Laundry Service” from 2001 is quite good; “Oral Fixation” from 2005 is also good. Her latest album, “She Wolf,” is not nearly as good. I don’t know any of her Spanish language albums; maybe I’ll look into them someday.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/8 "2010-02-07T08:17:58Z")

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> [@Liddle\_Lamsy\_Divey](#):
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> Agreed. Of her Spanish-language albums, my favorite is [Donde estan los Ladrones?](http://www.amazon.com/D%C3%B3nde-Est%C3%A1n-los-Ladrones-Shakira/dp/B00000DCVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1265516476&sr=1-1)

I love “Ojos Asi” from that album. The english translation does not work.

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/9 "2010-02-07T11:00:22Z")

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Yeah, I’m a straight woman but I’d make an exception for her. 🙂 Music wise I’m waiting for the Greatest Hits, though, as I think most albums have a few killer tracks and then quite a few fillers. Don’t know the Spanish albums, though.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/10 "2010-02-07T11:48:07Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Her latest album, “She Wolf,” is not nearly as good.

Additionally, her moves in the _She Wolf_ video are… unique. While much of it is extremely provocative, some of it is grotesque, and her tripping around on the roof in the white dress is awful. She moves like a four-year-old who’s just come back from ballet class. Why on earth was she choreographed like that?

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/11 "2010-02-07T12:44:34Z")

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As a rule, if it is an artist who started singing in Spanish, and is widely known in Latin America, the Spanish albums and versions of the English tracks are many times much better than the English CDs. This applies to Shakira, Ricky Martin, Marc Anthony (although I think he started in English), and I think a couple of others.

The first three albums of Shakira are my favorites, including Pies Descalzos, which was the first. Or at least the first one with international broadcast.

Of the later albums, I realize I like the Spanish versions of the songs that much better. Loba, the Spanish counterpart to She Wolf, is an awesome catchy song (ignore the video)… It just doesn’t work the same in She Wolf.

There may be an older Greatest Hits album, but it is in Spanish. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/12 "2010-02-07T13:42:25Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> While much of it is extremely provocative, some of it is grotesque, and her tripping around on the roof in the white dress is awful. She moves like a four-year-old who’s just come back from ballet class. Why on earth was she choreographed like that?

Really? I like the bit on the roof, I think it is quite natural and charming. Then again, I suppose after all those contortions, anything would look natural.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/13 "2010-02-07T16:56:56Z")

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Believe it or not, she has an article published in the Economist’s annual state of the world issue.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/14 "2010-02-07T19:49:30Z")

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I believe it - from everything I’ve heard from and about her, she has her shit together.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakira/527991/15 "2010-02-07T22:11:16Z")

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\*Donde Estan los Ladrones \*and \*Pies Descalzos \*are both eminently listenable albums.
