# Shall we Pit Condescending Robot? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 25, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053 "2012-11-25T10:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/1 "2012-11-25T10:44:42Z")
I browse SDMB to learn about science and world affairs, not to take sides in intra-SDMB squabbles, but I still get to know some of the players. There are about a dozen Dopers who I’ll know I’m going to agree with, and about another dozen who I know will teach me something new. Sometimes I even conflate two Dopers: I think I even conflated **Stvanger on Trains** and **Starveng Artisn** for a short while :smack: – their first names are anagrams, as are also their last names. 😃 I try to ignore the most useless posters – those whose posts are too right-wing, too condescending, or too robotic – but recently another one of those foisted his attention on me. Reviewing his posts, I see that **Condescending Robot** has a good high school-level knowledge of some topics, but – Wow! – his hatred for our current President sure seems hard to understand. > [@I don't believe those tears - not for a second](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-those-tears-not-for-a-second/640643/47): > > That being the President of our bloodthirsty nation requires committing war crimes is an indictment of the American system and voting public, not a defense of Emperor Bicycle Jesus I. > [@Americans - how do you morally justify drone strikes in the "War on Terror"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-how-do-you-morally-justify-drone-strikes-in-the-war-on-terror/637440/244): > > So, level with me, how many of the bright-eyed-and-bushy-tailed Hope And Change supporters that you recruited four years ago would have signed on to the program if they knew that here, in 2012, we would be talking about how imperative it is to be in a neverending non-war … > [@Americans - how do you morally justify drone strikes in the "War on Terror"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-how-do-you-morally-justify-drone-strikes-in-the-war-on-terror/637440/232): > > .. I’m sure however President Jesus defines that, it’s a laugh riot) … You’re obfuscating this issue because you have so much Obama Kool-Aid in your veins that even apologizing for murdering innocent people seems obligatory. > [@Americans - how do you morally justify drone strikes in the "War on Terror"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-how-do-you-morally-justify-drone-strikes-in-the-war-on-terror/637440/191): > > This is literally the best you can come up with? No wonder the Obama/mass murder fans can’t just deal with the truth on this issue. > [@Congratulations, America. You're worse than Afghanistan.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-america-youre-worse-than-afghanistan/641691/58): > > The moral depravity of the Obama foreign policy is an absolute nightmare for the soul of any human being who supports it… > [@Congratulations, America. You're worse than Afghanistan.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-america-youre-worse-than-afghanistan/641691/55): > > Do you feel impotent about your inability to ban people for dissenting from Obama’s war crimes policy in this forum? Not able to do something for Emperor Jesus today and mark your calendar? Is there some sort of rosary you can fiddle with to atone? Why this disproportionate hatred? > [@Americans - how do you morally justify drone strikes in the "War on Terror"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-how-do-you-morally-justify-drone-strikes-in-the-war-on-terror/637440/234): > > I was probably too busy hating black people. I’m sure Condescending intended this as a condescending joke. At the same time, it seems a reasonable working hypothesis. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/2 "2012-11-25T11:02:16Z")
Shall we be provided with a link? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/3 "2012-11-25T11:04:25Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > Shall we be provided with a link? The little blue arrow in the quoted link takes you to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/4 "2012-11-25T12:33:18Z")
Sorry for the poorly formulated OP. The thread title “Shall we pit?” asked for help in formulating this Pitting! 🆒 And I should have clarified that Robot’s hatred seems directed less against “Emperor Jesus” (his Condescending name for our President) than the religious fanatics (:smack:) who voted for him. Since the electoral alternatives were, first, an old man who chose Sarah Palin(!) as his likely successor and, second, the blithering hypocrite who chose [del]Ayn Rand[/del] Paul Ryan, the adjective I would use to characterize Obama voters isn’t “religious fanatical” but rather “sane.” I know very little about Condescending Robot beyond that he insists on the ridiculously condescending name “Emperor Jesus” for Obama. Did he condescend similarly when referring to GWB, who was at least as guilty of “war crimes”? ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/5 "2012-11-25T14:18:03Z")
In the last quote, I was mocking the notion put forth in GD (before some halfhearted backpedaling) by \*\*Ibn Warraq \*\*that the only reason one could oppose the Obama foreign policy is due to being racist against black Presidents. You seem to be intent on living up to some sort of caricature by _actually believing this_. Good job, you fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/6 "2012-11-25T14:54:31Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > In the last quote, I was mocking the notion put forth in GD (before some halfhearted backpedaling) by \*\*Ibn Warraq \*\*that the only reason one could oppose the Obama foreign policy is due to being racist against black Presidents. You seem to be intent on living up to some sort of caricature by _actually believing this_. Good job, you fucking idiot. But then _why_ do you have such fucking imbecilic ideas about Obama and the people who voted for him? And did you write such fuckingly ridiculous things about fucking Bush? Will you answer that, you fuckingly condescending and idiotic robot? And why couldn’t you parse “I’m sure Condescending intended this as a condescending joke” ?? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/7 "2012-11-25T15:09:01Z")
Since (in the other BBQ Pit thread) the Robot based his entire flatulence against me on the chronological fact that Obama was an Illinois Senator when I implied he was a U.S. Senator from Illinois, it may amuse to learn how unaware Robot was, as late as 2012, of the influence of Ayn Rand on such American leaders as [Alan Greenspan](http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/bio/turbulence.html) and Paul Ryan: > [@Ayn Rand - liberal or conservative?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ayn-rand-liberal-or-conservative/609639/37): > > By the way, the vitriol and the stupid “sociopath” comments just make me want to recap what I think the obsession with Ayn Rand by, not the right, but the left, is all about… > > Ayn Rand is not a significant figure in American politics… > But responding to any suggestion of lowering taxes or reducing government control of anything with “oh, you must be one of those Ayn Rand followers. What a sociopathic cunt she was! Haha I bet she had sand in her vagina!” is really, really easy. Reducing any slightly pro-market argument to this boogeyman of Objectivism and then attacking some person who has been dead for thirty years with childish insults is really, really easy. Why learn anything about the particulars of the Wisconsin public employees union situation when you can just continually discuss someone who wrote a bad novel in 1957? > > So, having the ghost of Ayn Rand around is great for the left. Since she has nearly no followers, it’s basically a wash for the right–they’re more interested in beating their gay children with Bibles than propping open the door with Atlas Shrugged. Without this straw man, it would be a lot more difficult to be a left-winger on the Internet, because people would have to engage with the actual ideas and policies being proposed instead of reducing everything to “exactly what the Democrats proposed v. Mad Max like anarcho-capitalist wasteland.” This gibberish is contemptibly – dare I say it 🆒 – condescending. Here’s another post demonstrating that the Robot’s username is well-chosen: > [@Why does religion hate gays?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-religion-hate-gays/610161/28): > > Because the whole point of being religious is to act like an asshole and then pretend you’re the victim when called out on it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/8 "2012-11-25T16:47:16Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I know very little about Condescending Robot beyond that he insists on the ridiculously condescending name “Emperor Jesus” for Obama. Did he condescend similarly when referring to GWB, who was at least as guilty of “war crimes”? Join date 2009, so how would we know? Is he some right-wing nut who hates the Socialist president or some lefty nutjob who thinks Obama is stealth Bush? I don’t follow his post enough to know… just going by what you linked to in the OP. And yes, I may have excluded some middle there-- maybe just “nut” explains it. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/9 "2012-11-25T17:37:08Z")
Yeah, it’s amazing what people will resort to in order to label and dispose of anyone who questions the American war machine–I must be the world’s first far-left socialist racist Ayn Rand fan Romney voter who is both insane and obviously just trolling. If you want to make this about me, the real answer is that I agree with what most Democrats claim to believe about the economy, that it should be basically a free market system but with tax-funded welfare provisions to ensure a minimum standard of living for all. Another point on which I am definitely not Ayn Rand is the issue that people take such offense at, my opposition to the mass murder of Muslims in South Asia, which I assure you is something that Rand, and her modern-day successors, enthusiastically demand and support. If you must know more about my personal beliefs as alluded to above, I also despise Bush and think he should be brought to justice for war crimes, including but not limited to torture, extrajudicial detention, and the Iraq occupation as a whole. The reason I am posting about Obama is that he has been the President for nearly four years and it is his supporters who are now carrying the torch for terror-bombing, which is morally unacceptable. Why this issue is considered beyond even the pale of discussion is a question that begs psychological explanations. The reaction from the Obama devotees (denying things reported in the NY Times and Washington Post as conspiracy theories, calling anyone who believes in human rights insane, recycling Bush propaganda garbage about “Al Qaeda”) is very much like those who feel their religion or family is under attack. The messiah syndrome among Obama fanboys is deeply disurbing, at no time less so than when it is used to handwave the dropping of bombs on schools, weddings, and ambulances. ---
**Author:** ![Modern\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@Modern\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modern_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/10 "2012-11-25T17:53:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Join date 2009, so how would we know? > > Is he some right-wing nut who hates the Socialist president or some lefty nutjob who thinks Obama is stealth Bush? > > I don’t follow his post enough to know… just going by what you linked to in the OP. And yes, I may have excluded some middle there-- maybe just “nut” explains it. He seems like a typical right-wing nut. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/11 "2012-11-25T17:57:12Z")
Yup, anyone who supports human rights or disagrees with anything Obama does is one of them Republican agents. They’re everywhere, you know. It’s the only explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/12 "2012-11-25T17:57:59Z")
He is a shrill hysteric who attributes the worst motives to anyone who disagrees with him and cannot make a single statement without crassly insulting people. He is unshakably convinced of his own moral superiority and is thus not worth engaging on any subject, except to caution others against engaging with him. ---
**Author:** ![Modern\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@Modern\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modern_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/13 "2012-11-25T18:01:48Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Yup, anyone who supports human rights or disagrees with anything Obama does is one of them Republican agents. They’re everywhere, you know. It’s the only explanation. You voted for Romney. Didn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/14 "2012-11-25T18:06:49Z")
Of course I did not vote for the soulless, prevaricating homophobe Mitt Romney nor did I ever consider doing so, though I’m sure my words will do nothing to damage your belief that the only reason one would oppose Obama’s murder policy is due to Presidential two-party politics. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/15 "2012-11-25T18:08:24Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > He is a shrill hysteric who attributes the worst motives to anyone who disagrees with him and cannot make a single statement without crassly insulting people. He is unshakably convinced of his own moral superiority and is thus not worth engaging on any subject, except to caution others against engaging with him. An apt description of the “disagree with Obama’s war on Pakistani civilians? You must hate black people” crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/16 "2012-11-25T18:09:24Z")
Well, if you want to Pit him for being condescending, I suppose that’s okay. > [@septimus](#): > > Since (in the other BBQ Pit thread) the Robot… Hey, I’m standing right here! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/17 "2012-11-25T18:10:50Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > An apt description of the “disagree with Obama’s war on Pakistani civilians? You must hate black people” crowd. Who on this message board has said that? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/18 "2012-11-25T18:29:13Z")
Here’s the thing, about the drone attacks and all, honestly, I don’t think most people care all that much. I know, I really don’t. I mean, it’s certainly bad if innocent people get killed while we’re going after Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, but I really don’t think the US government’s saying, “You know, lets go kill innocent people on purpose just to be evil”. It’s just a thing that happens, because when the bad guys are around innocent people, it’s really hard to target them without other people getting hurt. I don’t really like that fact, but I don’t think there’s anything I can do about it. And it’s happening in a far away country that I don’t feel any special attachment to, so it’s just something I don’t think about all that much or can get worked up when I do think about it. And I think most Americans feel pretty much the same way I do about this, both Obama and Romney supporters. I don’t think there’s a partisan divide there. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/19 "2012-11-25T18:46:26Z")
Again, what’s the plan, **Conde**? If our enemies would simply stand down and let us leave, we wouldn’t need much of a plan, now would we? See any evidence of that? So, we need some means to discourage them, don’t we? What do you have in mind for that? As we draw down, we have less and less personnel to defend our personnel. So, what do you have in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053/20 "2012-11-25T18:48:56Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Who on this message board has said that? The voices in his head. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shall-we-pit-condescending-robot/642053.md?page=2)