# Shame on the SDMB admin **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730 "2011-12-01T18:44:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/1 "2011-12-01T18:44:50Z")
For almost two days now, there has been a thread in GQ entitled rather sensationally as [“Mormons and their Lies”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633109). Such a phrasing, as pointed out rather eloquently within hours of its appearance by [Leo Bloom](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14513485#post14513485), cannot but have prejudicial overtones. At best, the wording in the title is insensitive. At worst, it is an overt attempt to target Mormons in a way that would be hailed at the vile Stormfront. It does not belong in these pages. Accordingly, I reported it, fully expecting the title to be changed to something less inflammatory without altering the content of the thread one iota. In other words, I was not advocating nor expecting censorship. Still, it stands. Some may say that the posts within the thread make it clear that the thread is not an attack on Mormons in general, or that LSD members themselves have contributed to it (yes, and some of my best friends are Jewish). Such assertions miss the point - the _title_ seems to be an attempt to malign members of a particular religion. And, if it’s not, it has done so inadvertantly, i.e. all the more reason not to retain that particular wording. Shame on TPTB for leaving it there unchanged for all to see (and some to cringe). ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/2 "2011-12-01T18:46:55Z")
I’ll assume it was a typo, but I like the idea of LSD proselytizers. I’d even be inclined to let them in. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/3 "2011-12-01T18:50:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Join Date: Mar 2000 And you still don’t know where administration complaints go? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/4 "2011-12-01T18:54:58Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > For almost two days now, there has been a thread in GQ entitled rather sensationally as [“Mormons and their Lies”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633109). Such a phrasing, as pointed out rather eloquently within hours of its appearance by [Leo Bloom](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14513485#post14513485), cannot but have prejudicial overtones. At best, the wording in the title is insensitive. At worst, it is an overt attempt to target Mormons in a way that would be hailed at the vile Stormfront. It does not belong in these pages. Accordingly, I reported it, fully expecting the title to be changed to something less inflammatory without altering the content of the thread one iota. In other words, I was not advocating nor expecting censorship. Still, it stands. > > Some may say that the posts within the thread make it clear that the thread is not an attack on Mormons in general, or that LSD members themselves have contributed to it (yes, and some of my best friends are Jewish). Such assertions miss the point - the _title_ seems to be an attempt to malign members of a particular religion. And, if it’s not, it has done so inadvertantly, i.e. all the more reason not to retain that particular wording. > > Shame on TPTB for leaving it there unchanged for all to see (and some to cringe). Did you report it? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/5 "2011-12-01T18:58:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Did you report it? He did, accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/6 "2011-12-01T19:03:04Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > And you still don’t know where administration complaints go? Indeed I do. This is a pitting, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/7 "2011-12-01T19:04:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Did you report it? Let’s find out. Karl, have you gotten any emails from twickster calling you names? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/8 "2011-12-01T19:04:21Z")
Moved to ATMB from The BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/9 "2011-12-01T19:04:51Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Let’s find out. Karl, have you gotten any emails from twickster calling you names? This is the damn funniest thing I’ve read in a while. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/10 "2011-12-01T19:06:51Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > This is the damn funniest thing I’ve read in a while. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/11 "2011-12-01T19:12:51Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Indeed I do. This is a pitting, asshole. Not anymore, champ. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/12 "2011-12-01T19:24:07Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Some may say that the posts within the thread make it clear that the thread is not an attack on Mormons in general, or that LSD members themselves have contributed to it (yes, and some of my best friends are Jewish). Such assertions miss the point - the _title_ seems to be an attempt to malign members of a particular religion. And, if it’s not, it has done so inadvertantly, i.e. all the more reason not to retain that particular wording. I saw the thread report. I decided not to change it for exactly those reasons: the OP made it clear that the thread title wasn’t an actual attack (if it had been I would have moved it to the Pit or possibly GD), and the Mormons who replied to the thread did not seem to object to it. Neither did any Mormons report the thread as being offensive. (I am assuming that neither you nor **Leo Bloom** , who as you mention objected in the thread but did not report it, are Mormon.) Given that it could be seen as offensive to Mormons for those who do not actually read the thread, I’ll edit it. I should probably also move it to GD as a thread about religion. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/13 "2011-12-01T19:32:00Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Let’s find out. Karl, have you gotten any emails from twickster calling you names? Game, set, and match. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/14 "2011-12-01T19:43:48Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Given that it could be seen as offensive to Mormons for those who do not actually read the thread, I’ll edit it. I should probably also move it to GD as a thread about religion. Well, that all worked out quite nicely. And much quicker than usual. Now what are we going to do to fill the last eight minutes of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/15 "2011-12-01T19:45:30Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Now what are we going to do to fill the last eight minutes of this thread? Bitch about the mods? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/16 "2011-12-01T19:58:53Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Bitch about the mods? Especially mods who have nothing to do with the matter at hand.😉 ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/17 "2011-12-01T20:00:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Given that it could be seen as offensive to Mormons for those who do not actually read the thread, I’ll edit it. This encapsulates nicely much of my concern. Thank you. (And there I was all primed to cuss . . .) ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/18 "2011-12-01T20:31:29Z")
Which just leaves “Reading For Comprehension: A First Course For Not-Mods Who Still Have To Stick Their Oar In”. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/19 "2011-12-01T20:31:44Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I decided not to change it for exactly those reasons: the OP made it clear that the thread title wasn’t an actual attack (if it had been I would have moved it to the Pit or possibly GD), and the Mormons who replied to the thread did not seem to object to it. Neither did any Mormons report the thread as being offensive. Wait, so the measure of whether a thread title is offensive is whether a member of that group find it so? I’m not Mormon but I thought it was an inflammatory way to phrase a question. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730/20 "2011-12-01T20:43:04Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Now what are we going to do to fill the last eight minutes of this thread? The same thing we do every night, Pinky. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-the-sdmb-admin/604730.md?page=2)