# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/301 "2021-07-27T01:22:45Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> The ending I’ve heard goes: “But God, I’ve been a good Christian and I prayed. Why didn’t you save me?” And God says: “I tried!! I sent a messenger, a boat, AND a helicopter!”

I believe Typo was feeling a lot less charitable than that.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/302 "2021-07-27T01:32:22Z")

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Ah, so this is a well-known joke.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/303 "2021-07-27T01:42:05Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I still cannot type worth a dam.

Name doesn’t check out.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/304 "2021-07-27T01:43:57Z")

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I would but my doc wants me to wait until they figure out the heart problem thing as i have a pre exstining condition…so its a wait and see

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/305 "2021-07-27T01:54:38Z")

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This is actually a joke I tell some of my therapy clients about medical activity on their part, including getting vaccinated.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/306 "2021-07-27T11:01:46Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Of course, dying from COVID19 will silence their voices on that issue, but hey, they have moral objections! SMH

This is IMO a foolish hill to literally die on, but humans in general and Catholics in particular have been celebrating people who die for their beliefs for a long time now.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/307 "2021-07-27T11:38:15Z")

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Gonna just drop it at this because other than definitely wanting to argue, I can’t even tell what you’re all taking issue with at this point. But I think you posted the wrong joke. You wanted the one where _before_ the guy dies, “God,” who hasn’t actually done anything to help anyone, says “you dumb prick, I hope you do die. You’re probably a Republikan.”

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/308 "2021-07-27T12:09:21Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> You wanted the one where _before_ the guy dies, “God,” who hasn’t actually done anything to help anyone, says “you dumb prick, I hope you do die. You’re probably a Republikan.”

This is where it gets pointed out again that the vaccinated have done literally everything humanly possible to protect the unvaccinated from this disease. It is the purposefully unvaxxed who are doing nothing to protect themselves, and are actively endangering the lives of others by their behavior. They are going to restaurants, and stores, and theme parks, and any place that is open, without masks, without doing the tiniest thing to protect others from this disease.

It is the ultimate in selfish behavior, endangering the lives of others for their own personal comfort. The fact that those endangered are primarily of similar selfish mindset is the only aspect of this fiasco that keeps me from losing it entirely.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/309 "2021-07-27T13:14:03Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> I would but my doc wants me to wait until they figure out the heart problem thing as i have a pre exstining condition…so its a wait and see

And this is perfectly reasonable. The rants here are for the people who are healthy, where there is no physical reason they couldn’t get the vaccine and they refuse to for a myriad of unreasonable “reasons”.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/310 "2021-07-27T13:22:27Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> mainstream Democrats who live in my immigtrant neighborhood, which was one of the hardest hit in Chicago and whose community was very much disturbed, who are afraid of it and untrusting of it.

Yes, Black and Latino/a communities have been slow getting the vax. Some of it is difficulty getting off work, etc. Much of it is fear. The good news is that there has been a rise in vaccination rates in these communities. The Trump republican communities are still stagnant.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/311 "2021-07-27T13:40:12Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> A person hears that floods are coming and he should evacuate. He says no, I believe in God and he will save me. The rains come and it floods.
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> He claims on to his room. A man in a boat comes by and offers to take him to safety. He says no, I believe in God and he will save me.
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> A helicopter comes by and lowers a rope and asks him to climb aboard. He says no, I believe in God and he will save me.
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> The man dies, and he goes up the pearly gates. And God says ‘You are an idiot’.

The analogy works better if the idiot also starts pulling old ladies from their boats to drown all while screaming that they should die for their freedoms. I wonder what God would say to the guy in that case?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/312 "2021-07-27T14:38:01Z")

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I feel this metaphor is getting stretched just a tad much.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/313 "2021-07-27T17:44:21Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> And this is perfectly reasonable. The rants here are for the people who are healthy, where there is no physical reason they couldn’t get the vaccine and they refuse to for a myriad of unreasonable “reasons”

It’s reasonable? My pre-existing condition made it _all the more importan_t to get vaccinated. It is the people with pre-existing conditions who are more likely to die from it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/314 "2021-07-27T17:58:18Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> It’s reasonable? My pre-existing condition made it _all the more importan_ t to get vaccinated. It is the people with pre-existing conditions who are more likely to die from it.

Very often yes, this is the case.

This is why it is especially important for people to actually speak with their medical professionals (doctor) about vaccinations, rather than just coming to the conclusion _themselves_ that “oh, I have some condition, so I will choose not to get vaccinated”

I suspect a lot of the last one is going on. I recently spoke with a young lady who was not going to get vaccinated because she was planning on having children some day. Someone on facebook told her the vaccine would make her sterile, so she was not going to get it.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/315 "2021-07-27T20:03:08Z")

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Fox News main story. Throwing shade on effectiveness of covid vaccine.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/CdPuNbC.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/CdPuNbC.png)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/316 "2021-07-27T20:34:48Z")

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“NHTSA grilled on why drivers and passengers need seatbelts if airbags work.”

People are dumb.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/317 "2021-07-27T21:06:54Z")

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I’d like to buy a vowel ?

Is there an “A,” please ?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/318 "2021-07-27T22:06:43Z")

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Is this about effect vs affect? I have an engineering degree, so words are hard for me. 🙂 I just looked it up and I think I used the correct one…

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/319 "2021-07-27T22:08:19Z")

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Check the first line on the graphic you shared 😉

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/320 "2021-07-27T22:09:49Z")

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LOL! I didn’t even catch that. WH briefings are designed for engineers!

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