# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/361 "2021-07-30T22:47:19Z")

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It’s so nice to have someone standing up for Covid! #VirusLivesMatter, amIright?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/362 "2021-07-31T02:17:03Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Lobohan](#):
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> > You’re human garbage.
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> That’s going too far! 😡
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> More like inhuman garbage.

I stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/363 "2021-07-31T02:47:17Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> inhuman garbage

[https://dmdave.com/junk-golems/](https://dmdave.com/junk-golems/)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/364 "2021-07-31T03:58:49Z")

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God, you are such a fucking pussy.

_“Like, oh my god, I can’t handle this. I can’t live. I have to wear a mask. It clogs my skin pores. I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe!”_

A real bitch man, you.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/365 "2021-07-31T04:16:14Z")

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Perhaps you could use man insults rather than woman insults? Or neutral, non-gendered insults?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/366 "2021-07-31T05:52:03Z")

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Ruth Marcus, legal op-edder at WaPo, has had it with the non-vaxxers.

> **[Opinion | Require the vaccine. It’s time to stop coddling the reckless.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/30/require-vaccine-its-time-stop-coddling-reckless/)**
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> The more inconvenient we make life for the unvaccinated the better our own lives will be. More important, the fewer who will needlessly die.

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> Those of us who have behaved responsibly — wearing masks and, since the vaccines became available, getting our shots — cannot be held hostage by those who can’t be bothered to do the same, or who are too deluded by misinformation to understand what is so clearly in their own interest.
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> The more inconvenient we make life for the unvaccinated, the better our own lives will be. More important, the fewer who will needlessly die.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/367 "2021-07-31T12:45:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’d also wish for a pony.

I hate anyone whoever had a pony growing up. 😉

As to people who refuse vax without a valid medical reason? A pox on them and their house.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/368 "2021-07-31T13:03:30Z")

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I think that’s basically the language you have to get through to these types, but yes, you’re correct, I could and should use different vocabulary - my bad. My point is, they think of themselves as being ‘tough guys’ who don’t need masks or vaccines. I think it’s time to start calling them out for being the little sissies they are.

_“OMG, my mask is so uncomfortable. I need a parasol.”_

_“Oh my, I’m so scared of needles. And I don’t know what they put in that vaccine. I might turn into an alien. Oooooh.”_

Wussies.

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/369 "2021-07-31T14:05:38Z")

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IMHO, if only those that "can’t’ take the vaccine (eg children under 12 and those with certain allergies or health conditions) didn’t get vaccinated, I don’t think Covid would be all that much to worry about. It’s the anti vaxxers like my idiotic youngest son, that are the problem. Oh, and my son’s two adult children? Both (and their SO’s) are fully vaccinated.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/370 "2021-07-31T19:31:16Z")

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> [@Mr\_Hoogly](#):
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> wearing shitty little paper masks

I would not suggest wearing a paper mask, but then I have never seen anyone do that.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/371 "2021-07-31T20:07:50Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Bolding mine. Right there is one of the problems. These heartbreaking stories are appearing on “da MSM”, and not from a trusted news source, so the people most at risk from this latest surge are not seeing anything bad happening out there.

It’s worse than that. The Times today had an article about a woman from Utah who decided her family wouldn’t get vaccinated (she prayed about it) and her husband is now in the ICU very, very sick.  
She at least admits she was wrong. But listen to this:

> A business associate of her husband made the case against vaccination while he visited Ms. Greene in the I.C.U. lobby.

Now that’s a guy who deserved to get Covid and die in pain.

Article here:

> **[They Spurned the Vaccine. Now They Want You to Know They Regret It....](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/us/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-regret.html?action=click&algo=bandit-all-surfaces&block=more_in_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=952301386&impression_id=7bbf9474-f23a-11eb-b695-190685238c73&index=5&pgtype=Article&pool=more_in_pools%2Fus&region=footer&req_id=957436041&surface=eos-more-in&variant=0_bandit-all-surfaces)**
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> People who once rejected the vaccine or simply waited too long are now grappling with the consequences, often in raw, public ways.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/372 "2021-07-31T21:16:50Z")

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> [@Mr\_Hoogly](#):
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> wearing shitty little paper masks

Well, yours would be shitty as soon as you started talking, but ours aren’t.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/373 "2021-08-01T19:57:38Z")

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“Officials at the St. Charles County Health Department in Missouri said they were disappointed after no one showed up to a mobile Covid-19 vaccination center offering vaccines to those attending a [local annual fair](https://www.stcharlescofair.org/)this week.  
The [St. Charles County Fair](https://www.facebook.com/StCharlesCoFair/?ref=page_internal) kicked off Tuesday at the Rotary Park in Wentzville, a St. Louis suburb. Attendees had the chance to get the Pfizer/BioNTech or Johnson & Johnson vaccine on Tuesday and Friday between 4 p.m. and 7 p.m., [according to county health officials](https://www.sccmo.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=1850).  
After spending two days at the fair, workers at the mobile vaccination site did not vaccinate a single person.”

> **[Officials set up a mobile center at a Missouri fair to boost vaccinations. No...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-set-mobile-center-missouri-fair-boost-vaccinations-no-one-n1275597)**
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> The disappointing turnout comes amid a rise in Covid-19 cases driven by the delta variant, local health officials said.

Not one person. No-fucking-body.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/374 "2021-08-01T20:04:17Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> After spending two days at the fair, workers at the mobile vaccination site did not vaccinate a single person.”

I blame the St. Charles County Health Department for incompetent marketing. The signs on the RV should have read: **FREE! - Deep Fried Vaccines with Bacon & Chocolate Syrup.- FREE!**.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/375 "2021-08-01T23:39:20Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@jerseymule](#):
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> > “It’s not like we’re seeing people laying out on the sidewalk or on their lawns dying of COVID.”
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> ( _This is not @jerseymule’s quote – he’s passing it on from NPR_ .)
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> Christ on a bike. They’re filling up every ICU bed in your whole fucking state, but you need to literally see them dying in the street to take this seriously?

Was amazed when I was hearing the report the other day, that I had called it almost to the word in another thread a week and a half ago (highlighting mine).

> [@Why do conservatives take some diseases seriously, but not others?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-conservatives-take-some-diseases-seriously-but-not-others/947012/18):
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> Plus frankly, **anything short of the dead piling up _in their driveways_ will fail to faze some of them**. The average voter has no idea what the normal mortality rate is and the average person alive today in the US has little concept of what are the normal rates of fatal or long-term disabling outcomes of even “regular” diseases (see: Antivaxxing from pre-2020).

They honestly believe that if it doesn’t look like the plagues of old, it’s not a true health crisis.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/376 "2021-08-01T23:42:25Z")

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Sure. Fine. But you’re still way out on a limb, imputing literacy to this cohort.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/377 "2021-08-02T06:08:16Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tennessee-gop-rep-who-rejected-masks-now-says-covid-19-is-real-and-dangerous-after-his-8-month-battle-with-the-virus/ar-AAMPuEi?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tennessee-gop-rep-who-rejected-masks-now-says-covid-19-is-real-and-dangerous-after-his-8-month-battle-with-the-virus/ar-AAMPuEi?li=BBnb7Kz)

They should talk to this guy, but he already lied to them.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/378 "2021-08-02T07:47:18Z")

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But but but……don’t you know that the ICU is full of people who are deathly ill from getting the vaccine and besides most of the people who “died” from Covid had mild cases but died from other things like cancer or car accidents but anybody who tested positive has to be listed as a Covid death even if they died from a gunshot wound to the head and a friend of my sister-in-law who is an ICU nurse said that she would never get the vaccine….

In good news, vaccination rates are actually increasing. It may be that some of the people who “never got around to it” are now getting vaccinated.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/379 "2021-08-02T14:53:52Z")

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As Florida breaks the old record for new infections, anti-maskers shout racist insults at doctors, and offers of free vaccination at the county fair go completely unclaimed, I’m now officially fed up with the unvaccinated and I’m starting to adopt the “serves them right” each and every time an unvaccinated by choice person catches Covid. Were it not for these idiots, we could have a much better handle on Covid and minimize cases and save lives. But these selfish assholes will continue to allow the virus to spread, to kill more people, and continue to evolve into more and more dangerous variants. Fuck them. Fuck the spreaders of vaccine misinformation. Fuck the asshole politicians that actively fight against mitigation attempts like vaccine outreach, mandatory masks, and vaccine passports.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/380 "2021-08-02T15:15:58Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> But these selfish assholes will continue to allow the virus to spread, to kill more people, and continue to evolve into more and more dangerous variants.

… and blame Biden for not controlling the virus better.

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