# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/764 "2021-09-01T16:07:51Z")

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> [@StraightTalk](#):
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> If you don’t trust the health care system when they are trying to save your life through the vaccine, why would you trust them once you get Covid? Stay home and deal with it yourself. That’s what you signed up for.

It’s related to the “[no atheists in foxholes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_no_atheists_in_foxholes)” aphorism. Yeah they are hypocritical shitweasels and are reaping what they’ve sown.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/765 "2021-09-01T23:25:34Z")

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Unfortunately, it’s not a capital offense.

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> An Oak Lawn woman was arrested in Hawaii last week after, court records show, she entered the state with a fake COVID-19 vaccination card that misspelled drug company Moderna as “Maderna.”
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> Chloe Mrozak, 24, was arrested Aug. 28 at Inouye International Airport in Oahu and faces a misdemeanor charge of falsified vaccination documents, according to court records.

> **[Oak Lawn woman arrested in Hawaii after showing ‘Maderna’ COVID-19...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-oak-lawn-woman-fake-vaccination-card-hawaii-20210901-ci3ndzqemzaajosv5v7nhfc5tu-story.html)**
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> Chloe Mrozak, 24, was arrested Aug. 28 at the airport in Oahu and faces a misdemeanor charge of falsified vaccination documents.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/766 "2021-09-01T23:29:45Z")

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Spotted on twitter. I was expecting Muhderna.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/767 "2021-09-01T23:34:18Z")

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Sadly, Joe Rogan’s Sacred Clown Tour has been interrupted after he got sick with Covid-19.

“Rogan said he took “all kinds of meds,” including monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak and prednisone. He also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip three days in a row.”

> **[Joe Rogan, a vaccine skeptic, announces he has COVID-19](https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/joe-rogan-announces-he-has-covid/)**
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> Joe Rogan, who has been wary of COVID vaccines, announced Wednesday that he has tested positive for the coronavirus. In an Instagram video, the podcast host and stand-up comic said he started feeli…

Rogan won’t say if he’s been vaccinated against Covid-19. He has said healthy young people don’t need the vaccine.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/768 "2021-09-02T01:10:40Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Rogan won’t say if he’s been vaccinated against Covid-19. He has said healthy young people don’t need the vaccine.

Is he including himself in that statement? He’s 54. Covid could certainly kill him.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/769 "2021-09-02T01:41:26Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Covid could certainly kill him.

From your lips to God’s ears…

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/770 "2021-09-02T14:29:24Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “Rogan said he took “all kinds of meds,” including monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak and prednisone. He also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip three days in a row.”

That combo certainly seems safer than the vaccination!

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/771 "2021-09-02T15:00:21Z")

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I was going to say; Joe Rogan is my age. That means he’s not young.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/772 "2021-09-03T17:12:02Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Sadly, Joe Rogan’s Sacred Clown Tour has been interrupted after he got sick with Covid-19.
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> “Rogan said he took “all kinds of meds,” including monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak and prednisone. He also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip three days in a row.”
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> Rogan won’t say if he’s been vaccinated against Covid-19. He has said healthy young people don’t need the vaccine.

Interesting that he’s happy to disclose what he’s taken that demonstrably DOESN’T (and arguably, isn’t intended to) prevent COVID-19, but on the question of whether he’s taken something that IS intended to (and demonstrably CAN) prevent it, he’s suddenly the clam what am. Especially considering the boost his claims of the uselessness of the vaccines could get if he could point to his own diagnosis.

It almost seems as if one is being invited to reach one’s own conclusions about his vaccination status.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/773 "2021-09-03T18:42:25Z")

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As if they were not shameful enough…

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-school-ordered-a-student-to-quarantine-his-dad-and-2-men-confronted-the-principal-with-zip-ties-official-says/ar-AAO3OTj?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-school-ordered-a-student-to-quarantine-his-dad-and-2-men-confronted-the-principal-with-zip-ties-official-says/ar-AAO3OTj?li=BBnb7Kz)

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/774 "2021-09-03T18:51:55Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> As if they were not shameful enough

The preview chopped off the most worrisome part.

A school ordered a student to quarantine. His dad and 2 men confronted the principal with zip ties, official says.

The principal told them how the cow ate the cabbage, and they crumpled like the paper tigers they are.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/775 "2021-09-05T01:28:29Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> how the cow ate the cabbage

Sorry, what does this mean? Happily, at least one of them has been arrested. [https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/arrest-men-confront-principal-covid-19-mandates-79822117](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/arrest-men-confront-principal-covid-19-mandates-79822117)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/776 "2021-09-05T01:44:14Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Sorry, what does this mean?

> “To tell someone how the cow ate the cabbage” means to tell the person the unvarnished truth, even if the person would rather not hear it.

From [WordDetective](http://www.word-detective.com/2010/01/how-the-cow-ate-the-cabbage/)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/777 "2021-09-05T02:13:18Z")

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![](https://c.tenor.com/j7S0OXAe8fEAAAAC/avatar-cabbages.gif)

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/778 "2021-09-05T15:28:08Z")

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I never heard that cabbages saying before. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/779 "2021-09-05T16:54:54Z")

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You can take a pig to the prom, but if you try to put lipstick on it, you’re gonna get kicked.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/780 "2021-09-06T01:51:57Z")

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/781 "2021-09-07T18:02:55Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> You can take a pig to the prom, but if you try to put lipstick on it, you’re gonna get kicked.

Or you’re going to end up with a really hot-looking pig. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/782 "2021-09-07T18:20:06Z")

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Idaho is now under crisis care protocols. They don’t come right out and say that they’re letting the unvaxxed die, but they hint at it.

> [@](#):
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> Under the guidelines, patients are given priority scores based on a number of factors that impact their likelihood of surviving a health crisis.
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> Those deemed in most [need] of care and most likely to benefit from it are put on priority lists for scarce resources like ICU beds.
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> Others in dire need but with lower chances of surviving will be given “comfort care” to help keep them pain-free whether they succumb to their illnesses or recover.
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> Other patients with serious but not life-threatening medical problems will face delays in receiving care until resources are available.

> **[Idaho hospitals begin rationing health care amid COVID surge](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-db21f9a14254996144e78aafb1518259)**
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> Idaho public health leaders are letting the state's northern hospitals ration health care because there are more coronavirus patients than the institutions can handle.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/783 "2021-09-07T18:38:08Z")

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You know, I was wondering what death panels would look like.

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