# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/844 "2021-09-17T14:22:30Z")

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> Jim: You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West.

Can I assume that we all just know the punch line ?

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/845 "2021-09-17T14:31:02Z")

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Everyone except the morons, of course.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/846 "2021-09-17T14:41:45Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Can I assume that we all just know the punch line ?

Damn I love that movie.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/847 "2021-09-17T15:02:36Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I would die for that kind of immunity.

Well played.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/848 "2021-09-17T15:07:19Z")

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That may well be the perfect corollary to

> I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/849 "2021-09-17T15:08:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Do the anti vax idiots think that all the hospitals in Idaho are in on the fake COVID scam? And all the staff there too? The patients are all crisis actors? Do they think Idaho is just a made up place?

Yes, Yes, Yes, and Probably, I guess?

There is no rational way we can fix this problem at this point, the people we need to convince have rejected rationality entirely. Even vaccine mandates aren’t going to work, as many of them are willing to lose their jobs rather than get vaccinated.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/850 "2021-09-17T15:40:34Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> There is no rational way we can fix this problem at this point, the people we need to convince have rejected rationality entirely. Even vaccine mandates aren’t going to work, as many of them are willing to lose their jobs rather than get vaccinated.

But that’s the beauty of the plan. Not only do they get to avoid having to be microchipped and poisoned and get horse worms from the vaccine, but after they lose their job they get to live a life of luxury on that sweet, sweet unemployment money. Live fast, die young, leave a diseased corpse.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/851 "2021-09-17T16:33:03Z")

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Right-wing anti-vaxxer Laura Loomer has Covid, is in [“so much pain”](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiuueOjt4bzAhXTVTABHYpsB3cQFnoECAYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thewrap.com%2Flaura-loomer-covid-19%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Y1WvoAhYe6SP1fs26_G5-).

Still won’t get vaxed, of course. But wants us to pray for her.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/852 "2021-09-17T16:39:54Z")

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"She called the virus “the biggest hoax” since the 2020 election. "  
I see. So now these fucking morons are denying that there even _was_ an election!

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/853 "2021-09-17T16:43:41Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> They aren’t to be referred to “unvaccinated”, they prefer “pure blood” now.

They’re pure something all right.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/854 "2021-09-17T18:06:50Z")

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I hope she spends 2 weeks in ICU on a ventilator, and another 6 months in recovery, hardly able to function. Then gets her insurance denied and goes bankrupt. But I will send her thought and prayers, so it’s all good.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/855 "2021-09-17T19:10:32Z")

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Laura Loomer is garbage.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/856 "2021-09-17T19:23:02Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> There is no rational way we can fix this problem at this point, the people we need to convince have rejected rationality entirely. Even vaccine mandates aren’t going to work, as many of them are willing to lose their jobs rather than get vaccinated.

Sure, but that’s part of the point. Without a job, they have no money, and will starve unless they finally give in. And, while I would greatly prefer they choose the latter, they can choose the former and no longer hurt anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/857 "2021-09-17T22:43:26Z")

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They could get together, form a Libertopia and all live like kings!

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/858 "2021-09-18T18:54:32Z")

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Mandates will cause some people to get the vaccine, I’m sure. I know someone who didn’t want the vaccine until she found a boyfriend in Canada and needed to travel there. There are probably still people begrudgingly willing to get the vaccine, it’s just that nothing in there personal lives has really ‘pushed’ them into it, other than whatever news they might take in. Some need to see loved ones die.

So many people are willing to die or ruin their lives for free’dumb. I don’t understand it.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/859 "2021-09-18T19:31:35Z")

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Smerconish on CNN this morning quoted Sean Penn’s great fix for bogus objections on religious grounds. Penn said check to see if a parent’s children ever got a measles vaccine. If so, claims of religious objection fly right out the window.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/860 "2021-09-19T03:15:11Z")

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If they are objecting due to use of fetal cells in the development, do what Arkansas is doing and make them swear that they never use Tylenol or Motrin or Tums etc.

> **[AR hospital staff must stop using Tylenol to get exemption for vaccine](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10002609/amp/Arkansas-hospital-staff-stop-using-30-medications-religious-exemption-Covid-vaccine.html)**
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> Conway Regional Medical Center is requiring staff members who receive exemption to vaccine requirements do to religious reasons to also attest that they will not use other common medicines.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/861 "2021-09-19T12:31:56Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I know someone who didn’t want the vaccine until she found a boyfriend in Canada and needed to travel there.

Wait, that works?

I hereby volunteer to be the Canadian Boyfriend of any American woman who decides to get vaccinated…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/862 "2021-09-19T12:46:44Z")

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Didn’t Sarah Palin once say something about “death panels”?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/863 "2021-09-19T21:57:04Z")

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Holy Hell, Octo writes @ Breitbart:

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