# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/904 "2021-09-24T20:27:48Z")

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I prefer my kitten martini stirred, not shaken.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/905 "2021-09-24T20:52:42Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Drinks too, for those who can.

In honor of both of you I will have a drink tonight.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/906 "2021-09-24T21:07:28Z")

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nm  
(I see you specified “human version”)

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/907 "2021-09-24T21:23:38Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> I live in the land of idiots and sometimes think I don’t drink enough.

If I’m not mistaken, the US Treasury has replaced _In God We Trust_ on all newly printed bills with this phrase.

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**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/908 "2021-09-24T21:45:22Z")

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If I’ve learned one thing in quarantine, it is that there is no amount of alcohol that can completely neutralize the sting of all the stupid without rendering me unconscious. Perhaps there are better drugs out there?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/909 "2021-09-24T21:52:42Z")

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> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#):
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> I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. There are a lot of people bringing up comorbidities who are not really interested in cormorbidities as much as they want to believe that THEY are immune because they don’t have whatever

Yeah, there’s a whole lot of “I’m too virtuous to get the virus!” running around out there. The thing I’ve noticed is, if you look at those “Herman Cain” awards on Reddit, a whole lot of the people saying “I trust my immune system, I’m young and healthy, it only kills those who are already weak!”, are themselves quite obese. They’re actually prime candidates for dying of COVID, but they act like they’re not.

Having several such co-morbidities myself, it boggles my mind that these people are so self-unaware that they think **they** will have an easy time of it if they catch COVID. I’ve known from the start how vulnerable I was, and got the vaccine as soon as I possibly could.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/910 "2021-09-24T21:55:29Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Kittens. You need more kittens. We all do.

I recently spent a long time in hospital, and kept telling the nurses they needed a supply of Emergency Kittens for when a patient was having a bad day.

“Nurse! I need 200 CCs of kittens, stat!”

I really could have used an Emergency Kitten on some of those days.

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**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/911 "2021-09-24T21:58:40Z")

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Hell, I have no co-morbidities, I even have some minor things that might work in my favor (being female and type O blood), and I still got the vaccine as soon as I could. I’m reasonably confident in my ability to survive COVID, such that I was willing to take some exposure risks that weren’t strictly necessary because I had competing priorities. But no rational human being, no matter how healthy, looks at a disease that has killed so many and a vaccine that’s proven so effective and says, “no thanks, I’m good.”

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/912 "2021-09-24T22:36:24Z")

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I frequently find myself very thankful that Canada legalized pot before the shit hit the fan.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/913 "2021-09-24T23:11:46Z")

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> [@Esprise\_Me](#):
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> Perhaps there are better drugs out there?

Pretty sure that @JaneDoe42 has established that that drug is kittens.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/914 "2021-09-24T23:20:56Z")

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Hurray for Emergency Kittens! Ours sure saved hubs, LOL!

They are good for my mental health, not so good at stopping the pandemic as getting vaxxed. Of course, the threat of buying a second kitten was enough to convince hubs the idiot to get vaxxed, so maybe they are good at stopping the pandemic as well!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/915 "2021-09-24T23:35:49Z")

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> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#):
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> > [@wguy123](#):
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> > Yep, from the FB comments on the local news sources, they’ve now pivoted to:
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> > - They aren’t using early interventions that work
> > - And any time someone dies “what were their comorbities?”
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> I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. There are a lot of people bringing up comorbidities who are not really interested in cormorbidities as much as they want to believe that THEY are immune because they don’t have whatever…these are frightened people - frightened of both the virus and the vaccine and they are looking for some way to avoid both.

They just like saying “comorbidities” because it makes them sound scientific (even when they say it – and spell it – wrong).

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/916 "2021-09-24T23:43:37Z")

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At first I thought that 200 CCs seemed to be a pretty small dose of kitten to use in an emergency, but then I realized that kittens are a homeopathic treatment such that the [smaller the kitten dosage](https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/5ldt5q/6_weeks_old_and_just_200_grams_one_of_the_cutest/) the larger the effect.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/917 "2021-09-24T23:46:32Z")

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Schrodinger’s kitten.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/918 "2021-09-24T23:54:18Z")

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A like button would be very handy right about now!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/919 "2021-09-25T06:02:44Z")

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I want a new drug, one that can purr.

One that sleeps in a sunbeam patch while I stroke its fur.

I want a new drug, that says meow.

One that likes its belly rubbed, and it wants it NOW.

One that might make me nervous, running a tiny zoo.

One that makes me rake through some sand to clean its poo.

Who’s the boss of who?

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/920 "2021-09-25T06:25:55Z")

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Oh god, you made me go and smirk.

EDIT: And fuck these people.

2nd EDIT: What do I tell people who say; “We don’t know the long term effects?”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/921 "2021-09-25T08:28:38Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> What do I tell people who say; “We don’t know the long term effects?”

We don’t know the long term effects of Covid either, even if you recover.

Of course if you don’t recover we do know the long term effects of dying.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/922 "2021-09-25T11:45:24Z")

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> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#):
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> There are a lot of people bringing up comorbidities

We know a family that got Covid (pre-vaccine, they aren’t idiots). Not sure how sick they got, but the parents were competing with each other about who had the most comorbidities and hence was likeliest to die (everyone recovered, thankfully).

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/923 "2021-09-25T12:58:44Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> At first I thought that 200 CCs seemed to be a pretty small dose of kitten to use in an emergency,

I honestly went back and forth on the dosage. I realized I really didn’t have a good idea of the actual volume of the average kitten 😃

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