# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/944 "2021-09-27T06:49:07Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> There’s a lot of talk about “fear” as well. “Don’t let fear rule your life,” etc. Florida’s new surgeon general, who’s against vaccine mandates and masks and so forth, said he was going to “reject fear as a way of making policies.”

Weren’t those the last words of that poacher in Africa who got eaten by a lion?

If Sir Terry were still with us, I bet Death would have some last words with these people.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/945 "2021-09-28T07:19:17Z")

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While I endorse the kitten therapy, be aware that kittens can get (and possibly transmit) Covid 19. The National Zoo currently has a terrible outbreak. All of their lions and tigers are presumed infected.

> **[Update on COVID-19 Positive Great Cats at the Smithsonian’s National Zoo](https://nationalzoo.si.edu/news/update-covid-19-positive-great-cats-smithsonians-national-zoo)**
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> The lions and tigers at the Smithsonian’s National Zoo continue to be treated for COVID-19. All tigers and three lions are eating normally and improving. Three lions are of greater concern.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/946 "2021-09-28T23:42:45Z")

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They do not deserve to live.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-some-iowa-parents-are-threatening-to-defund-schools-over-mask-mandates/ar-AAOVnkO?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-some-iowa-parents-are-threatening-to-defund-schools-over-mask-mandates/ar-AAOVnkO?li=BBnb7Kz)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/947 "2021-09-29T00:28:25Z")

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When their spouses or their children die… They will blame Biden.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/948 "2021-09-29T00:37:26Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > I’ve heard some feed stores will sell it only if you can provide proof of horse ownership.
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> Feed store in Las Vegas demands proof of horse.
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> All the links I could find seem to refer to the same feed store, so maybe it’s just that one? For now?
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/las-vegas-feed-store-says-customers-must-prove-they-own-a-horse-before-being-allowed-to-purchase-ivermectin/ar-AANVbYa)
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> [https://eminetra.com/las-vegas-feed-store-wants-proof-of-horse-ownership-before-selling-animal-medicine-for-covid-19-treatment-las-vegas-nevada/719332/](https://eminetra.com/las-vegas-feed-store-wants-proof-of-horse-ownership-before-selling-animal-medicine-for-covid-19-treatment-las-vegas-nevada/719332/)
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> [https://www.8newsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2021/08/My-Post-41.png](https://www.8newsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2021/08/My-Post-41.png)

Here in the Kentucky Bluegrass, it should be very easy to find a field with horses and lure them to the fence with treats, then take selfies of you and “your horse”. Or enterprising horse owners could charge $10 to take a photo of you and their horse that you could show proof of ownership with at the store.

As for unnecessarily living in fear, a good definition of that is being scared to death of extremely rare vaccine side effects - but not, of course, afraid of similar complications that are far more common if you contract the diseases vaccines prevent.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/949 "2021-09-29T01:12:26Z")

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> **[Network of Right-Wing Health Care Providers Is Making Millions Off...](https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/)**
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> The data also reveals that 72,000 people paid at least $6.7 million for Covid-19 consultations promoted by America’s Frontline Doctors and vaccine conspiracist Simone Gold.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/950 "2021-09-29T01:33:42Z")

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Always follow the Grift. That’s what it’s all about.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/951 "2021-09-29T03:56:01Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Here in the Kentucky Bluegrass, it should be very easy to find a field with horses and lure them to the fence with treats, then take selfies of you and “your horse”. Or enterprising horse owners could charge $10 to take a photo of you and their horse that you could show proof of ownership with at the store.

The store should require photos (or better still, video) of the customer riding the horse. That would at least screen out the greenhorns.

> [@Voyager](#):
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> > [@MrAtoz](#):
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> > There’s a lot of talk about “fear” as well. “Don’t let fear rule your life,” etc. Florida’s new surgeon general, who’s against vaccine mandates and masks and so forth, said he was going to “reject fear as a way of making policies.”
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> Weren’t those the last words of that poacher in Africa who got eaten by a lion?

Perhaps also the last words of that guy who ran off to hide out in the Florida swamps and quite possibly got eaten by an alligator?

“But did he ever return?  
No, he never returned!  
And his fate is still unlearned.”

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/952 "2021-09-29T04:17:43Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> The store should require photos (or better still, video) of the customer riding the horse. That would at least screen out the greenhorns.

’ Broken legs are a hoax from Big Cast!’

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**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/953 "2021-09-29T04:47:49Z")

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Yeah, you can take a picture with my horse. Just show me your vaccine card and step right up!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/954 "2021-09-29T04:53:44Z")

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The time to reach an understanding with antivaxers was approximately a year ago, in my opinion. As far as I am concerned the lot of them should go hide in their basements until we give them the all-clear…and then We Who Are Sane should forget they ever existed.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/955 "2021-09-29T05:56:18Z")

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Problem is they’re the ones least likely to stay home because they don’t want to “live in fear.” They say vaccinated people should go hide in their homes. So many assholes out there today.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/956 "2021-09-29T06:58:29Z")

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The fun part is where there has been shown a negative correlation between gut worms and COVID.

That is supposed to be the thing that lets Africa get by relatively unscathed. (and the younger population)

But keep popping ivermectin! I’m sure it’ll be good good for something. (A Herman Cain award if nothing else)

“OK! Everybody who wanted one has gotten their jab? Then we’ll send the rest to Africa”  
— that would make all the self-obsessed, racist “Facebook researchers” come running.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/957 "2021-09-29T13:47:23Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> As far as I am concerned the lot of them should go hide in their basements until we give them the all-clear…and then We Who Are Sane should forget they ever existed.

Do you want a Subterranean Moleman Empire?

Because that’s how you get a Subterranean Moleman Empire.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/958 "2021-09-29T15:35:26Z")

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Or Morlocks. I don’t wanna be an Eloi either, though…

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/959 "2021-09-29T15:45:28Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Or Morlocks. I don’t wanna be an Eloi either, though… -

The favorite condiment of Morlocks is Eloi Aoli.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/960 "2021-09-29T16:09:09Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Or enterprising horse owners could charge $10 to take a photo of you and their horse that you could show proof of ownership with at the store.

If they’re so desperate for off-the-shelf horse medicine that they’ll fake owning a horse to get it, they’re desperate enough to pay **way** more than $10 for that picture.

I, of course, would only use one horse for all the pictures, and choose the horse with the most distinctive features, with the expectation that the guy at the store will likely clue in that all these idiots “own” the same horse. But I’m evil that way.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/961 "2021-09-29T20:59:12Z")

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Here’s [an enjoyable opinion piece](https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/goodbye-and-good-riddance/) about workers quitting to avoid mandatory vaccination.

> Well, on behalf of the rest of us, the ones who miss concerts, restaurants and other people’s faces, the ones who are sick and tired of living in pandemic times, here’s a word of response to you quitters: Goodbye.
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> And here’s two more: Good riddance.

> So if you’re angry, guess what? You’re not the only ones.
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> The difference is, your anger is dumb, and ours is not.

> But the rest of us, we’re mad at you. Because this thing could have been over by now, and you’re the reason it isn’t.
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> That’s why we were glad President Joe Biden stopped asking nicely, started requiring vaccinations everywhere he had power to do so. We were also glad when employers followed suit. And if that’s a problem for you, then, yes, goodbye, sayonara, auf Wiedersehen, adios and adieu. We’ll miss you, to be sure. But you’re asking us to choose between your petulance and our lives.
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> And that’s really no choice at all.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/962 "2021-09-29T21:09:10Z")

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The whole “I don’t wanna…” makes me think of this…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gYzfTHO9tkY/hqdefault.jpg "Kindergarten Cop - Emma is a Princess") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzfTHO9tkY)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/963 "2021-09-30T03:32:18Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> The fun part is where there has been shown a negative correlation between gut worms and COVID.

Wait, what? Where? I’d love to see this!

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