# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/984 "2021-10-19T15:54:01Z")

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[https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-daily-covid-19-deaths-exceed-one-thousand-mark-2021-10-16/](https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-daily-covid-19-deaths-exceed-one-thousand-mark-2021-10-16/)

> Russia was quick to develop and launch its Sputnik V vaccine when the coronavirus pandemic struck last year, but take-up has been slow, with many Russians citing distrust of the authorities and fear of new medical products.
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> Only around 48 million out of 144 million Russians are fully vaccinated, according to the latest data from the coronavirus task force, with 51 million having received one shot.

Russia has fallen for its own antivax hoaxes.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/985 "2021-10-19T18:47:13Z")

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In Яussia, why not just яound up the non-vaxxeяs and forcibly vax them all? Isn’t that the kind of thing they can do theяe?

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/986 "2021-10-20T03:21:56Z")

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You may be onto something there! Convince the anti-vaxxers that hospitals will deliberately expose you to 5G, brainwash you into believing “Big Pharma” lies, and force you to bear Bill Gates’ babies. That’d open up beds for vaccinated people with serious health issues.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/987 "2021-10-20T16:17:41Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> Of course, I know conservative anti-vaxxers as well, and they’re all “The government can’t tell ME what to do!” One of them got COVID and was hospitalized for 10 days. Her family asked for prayers.

I seriously doubt they would have liked the type of prayers I’d’ve been giving.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/988 "2021-10-20T23:54:26Z")

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I just found out that my anti-vaxx aunt and uncle both got covid. My uncle was sent home to die but seems to be rallying. He’s 90! Her case wasn’t as bad, but maybe it’s because she has youth on her side, a young 78.

My fully vaccinated (with booster) mom says it’s hard to find sympathy when she talk to her sister.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/998 "2021-10-21T16:36:31Z")

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> [@JohnM](#):
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> Either somebody lied to you about vaccines, you’re the liar, or you are completely ignorant or stupid. Which is it?

“All of the above” is also an option.

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/999 "2021-10-21T16:37:33Z")

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D’oh! Curse your obvious solution to the dilemma.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1001 "2021-10-21T17:02:46Z")

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I’ve heard it both ways.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1003 "2021-10-21T17:05:02Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Cool! Now if you’ll just sign here \_\_\_\_\_ and forfeit any claim you have to be treated for Covid should you get it and we’ll be done!

Don’t forget to arrange the extradition to the Dakotas Quarantine Zone.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1005 "2021-10-21T17:12:31Z")

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Ten years ago, I would have never expected so many people being so god damn stupid. There’s a great chance that this crazy person believes in this shit. He may be intentionally antagonizes people online, but he’s not an anomaly, and probably believes the things he posts.

I have a headache.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1006 "2021-10-21T17:13:29Z")

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I know, people are a lot dumber than I thought. It is depressing.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1007 "2021-10-21T17:14:13Z")

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Since this person also is not responding to corrections, questions, or requests, perhaps it would be best not to try any more.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1008 "2021-10-21T17:16:29Z")

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I’m not trying to say I’m so intelligent… I’m not. These people are beyond dumb.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1009 "2021-10-21T17:17:49Z")

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I get it, I do. I was fully supporting your position. COVID has really woke me up to the fact that we’re collectively dumber than I ever thought.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1010 "2021-10-21T17:20:22Z")

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They’re not dumb. They’re uneducated, and they’ve been purposely propagandized to within an inch of their lives.

They’re confined to only very specific “news” sources, and they cleave to them like barnacles to rocks. To do otherwise means they’ll have to set aside an identity they’ve carefully constructed in order to belong to their in-group.

It’s sad and scary. I am very gratified to see the SD community bring their facts and citations to show this person how woefully misinformed they are.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1011 "2021-10-21T17:21:15Z")

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Lol they’re trolling you. You aren’t educating shit.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1012 "2021-10-21T17:21:58Z")

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But I’m not that educated… I trust people who are. They don’t. It’s horseshit that we have shared air between us. They are dumb.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1013 "2021-10-21T17:22:39Z")

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To be fair, shit for brains hasn’t told us that the vaccine makes you sterile or magnetic . . . yet.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1014 "2021-10-21T17:22:43Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> You aren’t educating shit.

There COULD be some lurkers getting educated.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1015 "2021-10-21T17:23:18Z")

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Doubtful

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