# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1037 "2021-10-22T18:54:30Z")
High school friend (1980-88) (middle school friend as well) had the uneven and hardly any calf muscle due to Polio. I’m not sure how she caught it. Her family is Jewish and, I vaguely recall, immigrated when she was little. From where, I dunno. I could ask her cousin who is a FB friend but… eww (my discomfort). Oh, all my older siblings still have the small pox scar on their arms. By the time I started getting in line at school for shots there wasn’t any scarring stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1039 "2021-10-22T20:44:10Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Are you reading these posts? It isn’t here to read posts. It’s here to mindlessly paste boilerplate crap from some MAGAt newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1040 "2021-10-22T20:59:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The smallpox vaccine. The polio vaccine. The measles vaccine. Those are all fake diseases, made up by the lefty mainstream media, using actors who pretend to be dead. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1041 "2021-10-22T21:03:50Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The smallpox vaccine. The polio vaccine. In fairness, he’s right: those are, indeed, two of the greatest discoveries of human history. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1042 "2021-10-22T23:19:07Z")
We had a teacher when I was in high school who had had polio. She had a shriveled leg, but could walk adequately. Her first name was Blanche, and I remember the boys calling her “Branch.” Awful. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1044 "2021-10-23T00:15:32Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > You may be onto something there! Convince the anti-vaxxers that hospitals will deliberately expose you to 5G, brainwash you into believing “Big Pharma” lies, and force you to bear Bill Gates’ babies. That’d open up beds for vaccinated people with serious health issues. If you don’t want doctors controlling your healthcare, there’s always home-based hospice one could turn to instead. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1045 "2021-10-23T10:25:55Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “Nurse! I need 200 CCs of kittens, stat!” > > I really could have used an Emergency Kitten on some of those days. I don’t know, dude… liquified kittens measured in CCs are a buzzkill for me. Sad Blender Stories by Persian Purree. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1046 "2021-10-23T12:14:34Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I don’t know, dude… liquified kittens measured in CCs are a buzzkill for me. Sad Blender Stories by Persian Purree. Come on, everyone knows you can determine the volume of a kitten by submerging it in water and measuring the displacement. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1047 "2021-10-23T12:18:04Z")
What kind of monster are you? You didn’t subtract the volume of the sack. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1049 "2021-10-24T00:52:31Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Medical professionals who wouldn’t understand science if it hit them in the ass are finding themselves busy seeking other professions. I watched CNN interviewing a doctor who insisted the vaccines killed more people than Covid did. Jesus Fucking Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1050 "2021-10-24T03:40:54Z")
Fucking lunatic. Why would any network put a mentally ill dangerous lunatic on the air? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1051 "2021-10-24T03:43:07Z")
Because people will watch it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1052 "2021-10-24T04:26:44Z")
Good point. Bread and circuses. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1053 "2021-10-24T05:19:56Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fucking lunatic. Why would any network put a mentally ill dangerous lunatic on the air? They were not giving him “equal time” or anything like that. He was Exhibit A in a section detailing how loonie some of the anti-vaxxers were. The reporters dumped on him really hard. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1054 "2021-10-24T15:12:39Z")
The physician in question apparently is Rashid Buttar, an osteopathic doc who’s long been a stain on medical practice in North Carolina, investigated and previously sanctioned by his state medical board (which he described as a “rabid dog”). He’s been singled out for criticism in the past for “unconventional” cancer and autism treatments and has a long history of antivaccine advocacy. > **[An anti-vax doctor who's one of the biggest spreaders of COVID-19...](https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vax-doctor-whos-one-071002288.html)** > > Dr. Rashid Buttar, a member of the "Disinformation Dozen," appeared on CNN to promote anti-vax theories. He told reporter Drew Griffin: "If I'm wrong, so be it." > **[Beware, North Carolina. Beware. Dr. Rashid Buttar is free to practice medicine.](https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2010/04/07/beware-north-carolina-beware-dr-rashid-b/)** > > Beware, North Carolina. Beware. Your law has become quack-friendly to the point where doctors can do almost anything. Why, you may reasonably wonder, am I saying this? The answer is what appears to be the end of a long and painful story of cancer... That Buttar is practicing without restrictions (or at all) in N.C. reflects poorly on that state’s medical board. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1055 "2021-10-24T16:37:57Z")
Well sure, doctors and virologists and biologists and geneticists and epidemiologists say to get the vaccine, but the guy I sat behind in 10 grade biology until he flunked out on his way to a GED posted a facebook meme of Dr. Fauci with a photocopied Hitler mustache so now I don’t know what to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1056 "2021-10-24T18:16:54Z")
Nitpick in the direction of fighting even more ignorance: Although he was diagnosed as having Polio, medical experts think that FDR symptoms were more consistent with [Guillain–Barré syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain%E2%80%93Barr%C3%A9_syndrome). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1057 "2021-10-24T18:35:09Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Nitpick in the direction of fighting even more ignorance: Although he was diagnosed as having Polio, medicaI experts think that FDR symptoms were more consistent with [Guillain–Barré syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain%E2%80%93Barr%C3%A9_syndrome). You mean after the March of Dimes raised all that money, Salk and Sabin developed vaccines for the WRONG DISEASE? Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1058 "2021-10-24T19:54:24Z")
Worse than that, Guillain–Barré is actually one of the few actual legitimate bad side effects of a vaccine, occurring in about 1/million doses (although the 1976 swine flu vaccine may have had as many as 8.8 per million). ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1059 "2021-10-25T10:42:28Z")
The 1976 swine flu scare: I remember lining up in the local school for that vaccine - given with a needleless gun. And - the controversy that followed when it turned out that the swine flu wasn’t as serious as first thought. (“The vaccine killed more than the flu.” Really - people were saying that.) Maybe it is fortunate that most people don’t remember that program. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=53)