# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1080 "2021-10-30T06:14:06Z")
I’m sorry you lost your uncle. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1081 "2021-10-30T07:53:17Z")
Thanks, I feel sorry for my aunt, even if she made a bad choice. They just got married about five years ago and I only met him on one trip back to the States. It’s too bad that they are letting politics harm themselves. Another aunt had refused to be vaccinated but my cousins told her she needed to in order to see her grandkids and so she finally acquiesced. Fortunately, my mother, a retired RN, wasn’t that stupid to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1082 "2021-11-01T05:50:51Z")
We can all relax, the pandemic is over. > **[Bill Maher Says Pandemic is Over, 'You Shouldn't Have to Wear Masks'](https://www.newsweek.com/bill-maher-says-pandemic-over-shouldnt-wear-masks-1644284)** > > Talk show host Bill Maher said Democrats continued to enforce COVID vaccines "for no reason." > Maher added: "I travel in every state now, back on the road, and the red states are a joy and the blue states are a pain in the a\*\*. For no reason.” Move over Fauci. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1083 "2021-11-01T06:11:45Z")
Bill Maher really turned into a crotchety old man. His takes on Muslims, youth these days, his attitude about the pandemic, him thinking Sinema and Manchin were more ‘with it’ than the rest of the party, thinking Opera should be president, are all bad. I smoke pot, but my ideas aren’t nearly as half-baked. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1084 "2021-11-01T14:51:01Z")
I’ve long been a fan of Maher but have definitely noticed the shift. To me, it seemed awfully precipitous, rather than the more common slow burn as somebody gets older and has money. Leading me to wonder whether it’s just business. Maybe Maher’s just chasing a different/changing/larger demographic. Maybe there’s more money in the middle than in The Loyal Order of Followers of AOC. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1085 "2021-11-01T15:59:23Z")
Someone in my company sent an email to everyone about how he will quit rather than submit. I guess he thinks he’s making a principled statement. I wrote back and told him we will get along fine without him. Wonder if he’s committing “career suicide by email.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1086 "2021-11-01T17:20:48Z")
Are fast food places requiring proof of vacination? I guess In and Out Burger isn’t, but don’t really know about the others. Is it more of a state by state thing? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1087 "2021-11-01T17:27:42Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’ve long been a fan of Maher but have definitely noticed the shift. > > To me, it seemed awfully precipitous, rather than the more common slow burn as somebody gets older and has money. Maher has a long history of being a health care crank, fueling suspicions about “the people in the white coats” while promoting antivax nuttiness, including the unsupported claim that flu shots greatly increase your risk of Alzheimer’s disease (if anything, it’s the opposite). > **[Bill Maher Supports Vaccine-Autism Connection](https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninashapiro/2019/11/03/bill-maher-supports-vaccine-autism-connection/?sh=4f8676ef723d)** > > On the November 1, 2019 episode of “Real Time with Bill Maher,” he had a conversation with pediatrician Jay Gordon, MD, known for providing troves of high-profile families with personal belief exemptions and medical exemptions to postpone or forego... ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1088 "2021-11-01T17:29:27Z")
He’s such a smug asshole, too. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1089 "2021-11-01T18:03:00Z")
I saw this recently: I don’t turn on my headlights because 1. I am not a sheep. 2. I refuse to live in fear. 3. I can see just fine. 4. I respect your choice to use your lights, so respect my choice not to. 5. If other drivers cannot see me, that is their problem. 6. It may be a law, but it is unjust and infringes on my constitutional rights. 7. I have a medical exemption and you are not allowed to ask me about that. 8. I am a member of the Freedom To Drive In The Dark Committee. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1090 "2021-11-01T18:31:04Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Is it more of a state by state thing? In Washington State it’s a county-by-county thing. That’s how it has been for the whole pandemic; they look at how each county is doing as far as infection and death rates and set rules based on that. King County, where I live (the most populated county, where Seattle is) does require vaccination proof or proof of a recent negative Covid test to dine indoors. [https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/king-county-proof-of-vaccination-indoor-dining-events/281-5469ac11-6b6b-4365-b7b2-0c8459039a56](https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/king-county-proof-of-vaccination-indoor-dining-events/281-5469ac11-6b6b-4365-b7b2-0c8459039a56) As far as how that impacts fast food restaurants, from what I have seen they all stick with take-out only (whether that means you can come to the counter indoors or they only have the drive-thru). The more traditional sit-down restaurants like our favorite Mexican place allows for indoor dining but they ask for proof before they seat you. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1091 "2021-11-01T19:01:36Z")
1. People who drive with their lights on still get into accidents. In fact that in the majority of accidents at night, the cars had their lights on. 2. New cars are using LED headlights which are an untested technology that may have unforeseen long term side effects. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1092 "2021-11-01T19:06:41Z")
YOUR lights shine in MY eyes!!! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1093 "2021-11-01T19:31:11Z")
The whole thing is a scheme by Big Headlight to sell more product. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1094 "2021-11-01T19:40:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … a scheme by Big Headlight to sell more product. It goes way deeper than that. Big Photon won’t be happy until everything is illuminated 24/7. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1095 "2021-11-01T20:15:17Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The whole thing is a scheme by Big Headlight to sell more product. Pretty sure I had a copy of “Big Headlights” tucked underneath my mattress in the 80s. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1096 "2021-11-01T20:59:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In Washington State it’s a county-by-county thing. My Wife live on the border of a very democratic county, and a very republican county. Sometimes I feel like I live on the Mason-Dixon line. The two counties are so different. The democratic county is 84% vaccinated. The republican county 55%. Guess where you still see people wearing masks. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1097 "2021-11-01T22:58:23Z")
I thought that was more a 1950s slang. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1098 "2021-11-02T00:00:03Z")
Then they get you on the Red Shift. Happens every time. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1099 "2021-11-02T11:30:43Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > - People who drive with their lights on still get into accidents. In fact that in the majority of accidents at night, the cars had their lights on. > - New cars are using LED headlights which are an untested technology that may have unforeseen long term side effects. 1. I don’t understand why, if you trust your headlights, you feel so strongly about mine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=55)