# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1140 "2021-11-04T20:17:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > …It’s one hell of a lot easier to get people to wear masks and vaccinate than to give up weekly splurges at the Golden Corral.\* > > \*I wonder whether the name of that restaurant buffet chain is a snarky reference to their customers, lowing as they pile extra helpings of fried chicken and desserts onto their plates. Or as I like to call it: “the Golden Trough” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1141 "2021-11-04T20:30:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > So why was he deceptive about his vaccination status? > > I’d love to know what “alternative treatment” he felt was protecting him. Ivermectin? Colloidal silver? Incantations by the Capitol shaman? I don’t really care about the answers to these questions. I just want to go on record as saying I hope his sponsors drop him like a flaming turd over this. _You don’t trust the science of the vaccine, but you trust some whackadoo “innoculation” from alternate-reality land, and then you cleverly lie about it – and cost yourself at least one game? And how many teammates did you infect? Buh-bye!_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1142 "2021-11-04T22:28:25Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > From what I’ve read, it was “homeopathic treatment to raise his antibody levels.” People always say, professional athletes are stupid. Live the stereotype, Aaron! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1143 "2021-11-04T22:39:16Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*I once read a novel in which a morbidly obese protagonist achieved a slim figure after deliberately contracting dysentery. Herbert Tarr’s Conversion of Chaplain Cohen, by any chance? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1144 "2021-11-04T23:07:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*I wonder whether the name of that restaurant buffet chain is a snarky reference to their customers, lowing as they pile extra helpings of fried chicken and desserts onto their plates. As I recall, when Golden Corral started it was a plain old steakhouse. You’d order your meal at one spot, push the tray with your napkins, drink, and utensils along to the register, pay, and they’d bring the food out. ETA: Well, shit. That’s what I get for not finishing the thread first. Ninja’d over 5 hours ago by @mistymage! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1145 "2021-11-04T23:11:47Z")
That’s the one. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1146 "2021-11-04T23:14:47Z")
Yeah, that part of the narrative stands out for me too, probably because I read it and thought “jeez, lady, that really doesn’t sound like a good idea”. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1147 "2021-11-04T23:19:58Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*I once read a novel in which a morbidly obese protagonist achieved a slim figure after deliberately contracting dysentery. Not recommended. In real life, women used to take “diet pills” that were really tapeworm eggs. I think there are still advocates of that around. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1148 "2021-11-04T23:23:02Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > So, you’re saying correlation still doesn’t imply causation?   That’s so 20th century. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1149 "2021-11-04T23:28:42Z")
Damn, Rodgers is an even bigger jackass than I’d thought. However he got his “homeopathic nosode” as an alternative to vaccination (they are sold in pill and spray form, for example), he would’ve achieved the same effect by having someone administer Healing Touch over the phone. With this episode, Rodgers surpasses Tom Brady as the leading QB moron when it comes to embracing health quackery (Brady at least got vaccinated against Covid-19 in addition to being infected by it). \*Rodgers might have avoided exposure if he’d gotten his homeopathic “vaccine” from this practitioner. Or not. > **[Woman Arrested for Fake COVID-19 Immunization and Vaccination Card Scheme](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/woman-arrested-fake-covid-19-immunization-and-vaccination-card-scheme)** > > A California-licensed naturopathic doctor was arrested today for her alleged scheme to sell homeoprophylaxis immunization pellets and to falsify COVID-19 vaccination cards by making it appear that customers had received the U.S. Food and Drug... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1150 "2021-11-05T11:05:23Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*I once read a novel in which a morbidly obese protagonist achieved a slim figure after deliberately contracting dysentery. Presumably by eating at Golden Corral. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1151 "2021-11-05T13:44:31Z")
There’s effectively no daylight between your position and mine, but this being the Dope \ … Fauci wouldn’t present diet and exercise suggestions as a prophylactic, treatment, or cure for COVID. He would just present it: - As he did in the Business Insider article, and - As @Jackmannii implies health care providers do all day, every day, across the country. No transgression against Evidence-Based Medicine there. As a revered guy in the bicycling community once said – and, AFAIK, it’s the only thing he ever said on the subject: > Helmets: can’t hurt, might help Yeah. Same in this scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1152 "2021-11-05T19:01:19Z")
There’s a new video posted on ESPN in which Aaron Rodgers is interviewed, claiming that he’s allergic to an (unspecified) ingredient in the mRNA vaccines, and adding “I’m not some sort of, y’know, antivax blatherer, I am somebody who’s a critical thinker…I believe in body autonomy.” This doesn’t make sense to me. Why would he need to invoke “critical thinking” and “body autonomy”? What do they have to do with a purported allergy? To put it politely, Aaron is being evasive again. To be more accurate, he just can’t stop lying. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1153 "2021-11-05T19:03:11Z")
“I’m a smart person. I deserve respect! I’m not just some dumbass celebrity athlete!” - Dumbass Celebrity Athlete ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1154 "2021-11-05T20:37:07Z")
I’m guessing that Rodgers will not get the job of permanent host of Jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1155 "2021-11-05T20:58:10Z")
I haven’t watched the interview, but I hear one of the reasons he gave for not getting vaxxed was a concern that the vaccine would make him infertile. How is this idiot 21-5 against the Bears? (Don’t answer that.) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1156 "2021-11-05T21:06:31Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I’m guessing that Rodgers will not get the job of permanent host of Jeopardy. Mayim Bialik is well known for being vaccine ‘hesitant’. It’s apparently not an impediment. Though lying about his status might be a different story. ETA: I don’t differentiate between classes of lying - like between deliberately stating falsehoods or deliberately misleading without explicitly saying anything untrue. ETA2: Ok, it gets better. He thanked Joe Rogan for giving him advice. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > “I’m a smart person. I deserve respect! I’m not just some dumbass celebrity athlete!” - Dumbass Celebrity Athlete > **[Aaron Rodgers discusses positive COVID-19 test: 'I'm in the crosshairs of the...](https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-discusses-positive-covid-19-test-im-in-the-crosshairs-of-the-woke-mob-right-now-173236045.html?guccounter=1)** > > Aaron Rodgers talked about the "woke mob" and "cancel culture" while explaining his actions. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1157 "2021-11-05T21:55:14Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > [@Railer13](#): > > > > I’m guessing that Rodgers will not get the job of permanent host of Jeopardy. > > Mayim Bialik is well known for being vaccine ‘hesitant’. It’s apparently not an impediment. Terming her vaccine “hesitant” was probably ironically intended, but she has a history of peddling antivax misinformation. " In 2009, she told _People_ magazine her family was a “non-vaccinating” one: “we based [our decision] on research and discussions with our pediatrician\*, and we’ve been happy with that decision,” she [said](https://people.com/parents/mayim-bialik-talks-attachment-parenting-with-cbb/) in that interview." "In a blog post on the website Kveller, she also endorsed the work of Dr. Bob Sears, the son of attachment parenting guru William Sears (more on him later) who advocates for alternative vaccination schedules and opposes mandatory vaccination\*\*… "In recent years, as her profile has grown, Bialik has backtracked on this view. Last year she released a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov_Jw02uHGY&ab_channel=MayimBialik) on YouTube saying that, while she would get a [Covid-19](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/covid-19/) vaccine when it became available, she had not given her kids flu shots and had delayed vaccinating them, though she said they were indeed vaccinated: “as of today, my children may not have had every one of the vaccinations that your children have, but my children are vaccinated.” Bialik added that she felt children receive “way too many [vaccines](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/vaccines/) in this country” and that “the medical community often operate[s] from a place of fear in order to make money.” This is rather ironic considering Bialik is a TV spokesperson for a dubious brain supplement. I’m making a wild guess that she isn’t doing it for free. > **[Future 'Jeopardy!' Host Mayim Bialik Has a Few Scandals of Her Own](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/new-jeopardy-host-mayim-bialik-1216461/)** > > TV star Mayim Bialik has made a fortune promoting pseudoscience and making parents miserable \*Bialik’s pediatrician is none other than Dr. Jay Gordon, best known for being Jenny McCarthy’s pediatrician and promoting many antivax views. \*\*Bob Sears, whose work Bialik endorsed, is another antivax pediatrician who had his California medical license placed on probation for 35 months for “gross negligence”. Among other things he was found to not have properly examined a young child with a history of head injury and issuing an uncalled-for vaccine exemption. About a year after he went on probation he was under investigation _again_ for giving improper medical exemptions for vaccination. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1158 "2021-11-05T22:04:53Z")
And she really can’t seem to avoid her anti-vax nature, even if she’s not full of shit and actually got the CoVID vaccine. The very first link that she suggests for further reading in that “I’m not anti-vax (even though I mostly am)” video goes to [Children’s Health Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense), the notoriously anti-vax organization founded by RFK, Jr., who, much like Mayim, will tell you that he’s not anti-vax. I don’t say this lightly, as I know she’s a crush of many here, but one of my crushes, Jessica Biel, also takes such a stance. They can all go fuck right off. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1159 "2021-11-05T22:17:35Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > [@Railer13](#): > > > > I’m guessing that Rodgers will not get the job of permanent host of Jeopardy. > > Mayim Bialik is well known for being vaccine ‘hesitant’. It’s apparently not an impediment. > > Though lying about his status might be a different story. > > ETA: I don’t differentiate between classes of lying - like between deliberately stating falsehoods or deliberately misleading without explicitly saying anything untrue. > > ETA2: Ok, it gets better. He thanked Joe Rogan for giving him advice. > > > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > > “I’m a smart person. I deserve respect! I’m not just some dumbass celebrity athlete!” - Dumbass Celebrity Athlete > > [Aaron Rodgers talks positive COVID-19 test, blames woke mob](https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-discusses-positive-covid-19-test-im-in-the-crosshairs-of-the-woke-mob-right-now-173236045.html?guccounter=1) From the Rodgers article: > “I realize I’m in the crosshairs of the woke mob right now,” Rodgers said. “So before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket …” Another poor, poor victim. I hope State Farm does cancel him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=56) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870.md?page=58)