# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1260 "2021-12-13T20:00:47Z")

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> [@velomont](#):
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> the first-world idiots and the poor folk in the third world

The sad thing is when the first-world idiots refuse the vaccines that the third-world people would be all-too-happy to take if they only had access to them.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1261 "2021-12-13T21:51:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> We’ve given these idiots the carrot for more than an a year. If the stick needs to be used, so be it. {…}

I’ve been working on a 5.56 injector but the sheer density and thickness of some folk’s skulls is leading me to just, hehe, biting the bullet and going with .50 BMG.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1262 "2021-12-14T01:19:18Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> A guy on our neighborhood app posted that nonsense about Delta/Omicron/media control, and I pointed out that his name was an anagram for “Batman Liar Kit,” and demand to know who was zooming who.
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> The thread was closed shortly thereafter.

Damn, I wish my name was an anagram for Batman Liar Kit.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1263 "2021-12-14T01:24:37Z")

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Mark Battalini? That’s all I can come up with.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1264 "2021-12-14T01:26:26Z")

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I found out today that my name is an anagram for Bearable Hydrant.

(Also, the extremely salacious Anal Bathed Berry.)

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1265 "2021-12-14T01:55:42Z")

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I once read that lead Transformer Optimus Prime was an anagram for “Moisture Pimp.”

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1266 "2021-12-14T14:15:44Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Mark Battalini? That’s all I can come up with.

DING DING DING

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1267 "2021-12-14T14:46:51Z")

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Sorry to have doxxed your neighbor due to anagram OCD…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1268 "2021-12-20T03:06:32Z")

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Went to Costco, 12/19/2021. A dozen customers without masks. They were wearing mask, but around their necks, not faces.

I have come to expect this level of stupidity from the masses. But what irked me was there were no fewer than 4 employees like this (noses uncovered). One was a checker, one was _serving food_. There is no excuse for this. They are risking their customer’s lives and the lives of fellow employees.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1269 "2021-12-20T09:20:34Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> Well sure, doctors and virologists and biologists and geneticists and epidemiologists say to get the vaccine, but the guy I sat behind in 10 grade biology until he flunked out on his way to a GED posted a facebook meme of Dr. Fauci with a photocopied Hitler mustache so now I don’t know what to believe.

So well put!

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1270 "2021-12-20T15:51:38Z")

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One recent anti-vaxxer revealed his ‘reason’:

He opposes Government measures (to encourage vaccination) because he doesn’t want his kids ‘to wake up in some sort of utopia’ 🤢

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1271 "2021-12-20T15:58:40Z")

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Unfortunately, dumbass antivaccine sentiment is not confined to First World countries.

> **[Indonesia and Philippines face persistent anti-vax hurdle](https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Asia-Insight/Indonesia-and-Philippines-face-persistent-anti-vax-hurdle)**
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> Asian hesitancy weighs as inoculation drives make progress

> **[Worldwide Demonstration: People protest against mandatory vaccinations,...](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/city/mumbai/worldwide-demonstration-people-protest-against-mandatory-vaccinations-lockdowns/videoshow/84724265.cms)**
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> On the occasion of Worldwide Demonstrations, people held a protest against the lockdown and mandatory vaccination in Mumbai. On this day people of 45 countries and 120 cities came together for freedom. Awaken India Movement had called for...

I have no idea what the hell is wrong with the Times of India for posting that photo caption.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1272 "2021-12-20T16:27:52Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> He opposes Government measures (to encourage vaccination) because he doesn’t want his kids ‘to wake up in some sort of utopia’

Fucking utopias, man. Nothing will make you soft faster than living in a perfect society were every need is met and everyone is happy.

Give me a good dystopia any day. Then at least we’ll be ready when we’re attacked by time-traveling Morlocks.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1273 "2021-12-20T16:37:31Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Fucking utopias, man. Nothing will make you soft faster than living in a perfect society were every need is met and everyone is happy.

I’ve been seeing more and more “Easy times makes soft men” memes popping up. Not only is it a logical fallacy, it’s sexist as hell. It’s never presented as “soft people;” it’s always positioning menfolk as being the last bastions of a functioning society. I suspect that it’s not a coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1274 "2021-12-20T16:56:17Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> I’ve been seeing more and more “Easy times makes soft men” memes popping up. Not only is it a logical fallacy, it’s sexist as hell. It’s never presented as “soft people;” it’s always positioning menfolk as being the last bastions of a functioning society. I suspect that it’s not a coincidence.

I saw the video, and this had nothing to do with what you are saying. The ignorant man in the video thought “utopia” was a scary word. It was obvious he had no idea what it means.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1275 "2021-12-20T17:23:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It was obvious he had no idea what it means.

Shocking. If you can’t trust anti-vaxxers to have their information straight, who can you trust?

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1276 "2021-12-20T17:30:05Z")

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Being wrong makes me sad, and this makes me even more sad.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1277 "2021-12-20T17:36:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I have no idea what the hell is wrong with the Times of India for posting that photo caption.

I think it’s probably an editorial screwup. Someone got a quote from a spokesperson for the demo, and it got put in as though that’s the staff writer’s description.

ETA: maybe not. Has the Times Of India been taken over by antivaxers? I found this too, note the word “bravely”:

> **[Mumbai: Anti-vaxxers who gave in are now scrambling to ‘undo’ their jab |...](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/anti-vaxxers-who-gave-in-are-now-scrambling-to-undo-their-jab/articleshow/88231259.cms)**
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> At 44, Vishal Hiwale, bravely states that he neither believes in Covid-19 nor the anti-Covid vaccines. Even as two waves of the coronavirus swept thro

The tone of that article is quite confusing, it oscillates between apparent sympathy for the antivaxxers, then in places almost mocking them, and some objective reporting of the facts. It’s as though it were generated by a mediocre A.I. that can’t decide what it’s supposed to be doing.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1278 "2021-12-20T18:23:04Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Maybe Emilio Estévez will produce a show whose cast he can join.

I missed this. Emilio Estévez is an anti-vaxxer too? But he’s supposed to be the smart one!

Whose going to save Charlie’s ass if you bite the dust, Emilio? He’s your brother. Why would you be so selfish as to kill yourself with COVID? Do you want Charlie to die? If you’re not around, who’ll be there to help him when he needs it?  
#SelfishPrick

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1279 "2021-12-20T18:24:00Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Do you want Charlie to die?

His tiger blood will save him. 😉

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