# Shame on those that refuse the vaccine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870 "2021-07-20T01:15:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1300 "2022-01-01T21:44:36Z")

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Is there a term for someone who has almost certainly statistically caused someone’s death through their actions? Statistical murderer or something.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1301 "2022-01-01T21:47:51Z")

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[Stochastic terrorism](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1302 "2022-01-01T22:13:29Z")

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I think that’s true of everyone refusing to get vaccinated. All of them are helping kill other people. While I’d prefer no one die of COVID, I’d rather it be them than decent people.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1303 "2022-01-02T06:16:23Z")

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Unfortunately, through both action and inaction, both the guilty and the innocent pay the price.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1304 "2022-01-02T13:28:14Z")

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Exactly. Each unvaxxed red stater is a terrorist cell out there causing untold suffering. They’re fucking trash.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1305 "2022-01-02T16:02:42Z")

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Wait, wait…

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> ['World first' as Cambridge vet saves tiger's eye](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-56888358)

> Specialist vet says surgery on a tiger takes “a lot more anaesthetic” than on a domestic cat.

That’s one for the “did we need to be told that?” files.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1306 "2022-01-02T16:44:31Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Wait, wait…
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [‘World first’ as Cambridge vet saves tiger’s eye - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-56888358)
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> > Specialist vet says surgery on a tiger takes “a lot more anaesthetic” than on a domestic cat.
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> That’s one for the “did we need to be told that?” files.

Readers might also be surprised to learn that a 350lb 50-year-old having open heart surgery needs a different amount of anesthetic than a 5lb premature infant having open heart surgery.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1307 "2022-01-06T22:58:43Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/anti-vax-radio-host-dies-after-contracting-covid/ar-AASvIDN?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/anti-vax-radio-host-dies-after-contracting-covid/ar-AASvIDN?li=BBnb7Kz)

Does his audience get alerted at all?

“I know you were all set for Doug to bash Biden and call Libs wussies for Vaccine mandates, but …Doug died of Covid…and well…”

> His friends told that outlet that Kuzma became ill after attending the far-right “ReAwaken America Tour” event in Texas, which happened in mid-December.

America was reawakened. Then it caught Covid and died.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1308 "2022-01-07T09:16:43Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Readers might also be surprised to learn that a 350lb 50-year-old having open heart surgery needs a different amount of anesthetic than a 5lb premature infant having open heart surgery.

My last several dentists never seem to use enough novocaine (or xylocaine or procaine or whatevercaine), and I’m not even particularly heavy-set.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1309 "2022-01-07T14:58:01Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> My last several dentists never seem to use enough novocaine (or xylocaine or procaine or whatevercaine), and I’m not even particularly heavy-set.

I hope the next person who invents a new anesthetic calls it michaelcaine

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1310 "2022-01-07T16:29:50Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I hope the next person who invents a new anesthetic calls it michaelcaine

I was going to inject kwaichangcaine in there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1311 "2022-01-07T17:20:02Z")

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Could an an anesthetic derived from desiccated grapes be raisincaine?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1312 "2022-01-08T04:34:35Z")

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Yet another:

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/qanon-star-who-said-only-idiots-get-vax-dies-of-covid/ar-AASxG9E?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/qanon-star-who-said-only-idiots-get-vax-dies-of-covid/ar-AASxG9E?li=BBnb7Kz)

> Weldon focused on attacking vaccines and other efforts to fight COVID-19, saying in one video that Dr. Anthony Fauci “needs to be hung from a rope.” She claimed the vaccine killed people, and even recorded herself yelling at people standing in line to receive vaccines.

Well I guess somebody else will have to do the hanging.

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**Author:** ![Mirtha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@Mirtha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirtha)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1313 "2022-01-26T00:59:30Z")

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The tragedy of this pandemic is people suffering longer than they need to or dying because of covidiots.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1314 "2022-01-27T00:54:55Z")

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Mega-idiot in action:

> **[‘Bunch of Idiots’: Grown Man Accused of Spitting on and Shoving Kids for...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bunch-of-idiots-grown-man-accused-of-spitting-on-and-shoving-kids-for-wearing-masks/ar-AATa4R9)**
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> Parents say the middle-age man has been behind a string of incidents targeting children in recent weeks.

To quote Vincent Vega:  
_Boy, I wish I could’ve caught him doing it. I’d have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It’d been worth him doing it just so I could’ve caught him doing it._

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1315 "2022-01-27T10:21:49Z")

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Supported by other idiots:

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> Officers were called to at least one incident under investigation, but the deputy who responded scolded the kids and “decided to lecture [them] about freedom of speech instead of taking their names and writing an incident report,” Emily Lanigan, one of the parents affected, told CBS LA.

Would love for the spitter to earn a ban on being near schools.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shame-on-those-that-refuse-the-vaccine/946870/1316 "2022-01-27T13:01:20Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Would love for the spitter to earn a ban on being near schools.

Arrest him for assault. Possibly terrorism too.

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