# shampoo and conditioner

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253 "2010-05-13T01:52:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/21 "2010-05-13T21:01:32Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> I don’t use conditioner at all anymore since I switched to sulfate-free shampoo. Seems to me that you spend money on shampoo that scrubs every last bit of naturally occuring oil from your hair and scalp and then have to buy conditioner to put moisture back in your hair?

After reading suggestions about sulfate-free shampoo in another thread recently, I decided to give it a try. My hair has started to get rougher in the last couple of years, and the cheap shampoo/conditioner that I was using weren’t doing the job anymore.

After about a week, I can already tell the different. I’ve using a sulfate-free shampoo and I’ve given up the conditioner all together. I’m due for a trim, to take off the split ends, and hopefully then I’ll be good for a while. I’ve been using L’oreal EverStrong. I’ll probably try out a few others before I settle on one.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/22 "2010-05-13T21:09:00Z")

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Yep, and I was using an Aveda shampoo. L’Oreal is a ton cheaper, too!!

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/23 "2010-05-13T21:09:25Z")

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> [@melodyharmonius](#):
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> I just started using Herbal Essences “Hydration” and have been loving it. If you watch for coupons and sales, you can get it pretty cheap.

I recently started using this, too – the 2-in-1, because it saves time during the week – and I also like it. And I like that the coconut ingredient makes it smell like suntan lotion (to me, anyway), because then I daydream about being at the beach while I’m showering. 🙂

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/24 "2010-05-13T21:12:16Z")

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Right now, I’m loving Palmer’s Coconut shampoo and conditioner. My hair tends to frizz in the humidity, and it hasn’t done it since I started using it.

For those of you who like a lot of the salon products but can’t afford them, check out Sally Beauty if there is one near you. They have a lot of knockoffs of salon products that are pretty good, and cheap.

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/25 "2010-05-13T22:33:20Z")

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> [@BigBertha](#):
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> About three times a week. Its too oily less often but when its clean it feels dry and slippery. I am told this is due to menopause.  
> I truly like Nexxus but its out of my range at this point in time.  
> Its long and I cut it twice a year.

I also recommend switching to a sulfate free shampoo. Burt’s Bees makes sulfate free shampoos, as do several other brands. Personally, I’m currently [using David Babaii for Wildaid](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dbeauty&field-keywords=david+babaii+for+wildaid&x=0&y=0) and it works great for me. I have multiple textures in my hair\* and have different hair needs depending upon the season, so right now I’m using the volumizing line to keep the greasies at bay while not completely drying my hair out.

\*The top layer is Scandinavian baby-fine stick straight hair, but the lower layers vary from straight to wavy to slightly coarse with curls; at my current length, if I let it dry naturally, I have wonky curls that flip out underneath silk straight hair.

> [@Pyper](#):
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> Another girl with thick, curly, frizzy hair chiming in. I use Aussie Moist Conditioner - it’s the silicone that smoothes the hair

I use [Aussie Three Minute Miracle](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dbeauty&field-keywords=aussie+three+minute+miracle&x=0&y=0), which is part of the Moist line-- it’s a deep conditioner that does wonders when your hair gets dry and unmanageable.

> [@Poysyn](#):
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> I wanted to chime in and say a little coconut oil on your hands then work into your hair (not at the scalp).
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> Works great and smells nice too

I’ve got a bottle of [this coconut oil](http://www.amazon.com/Dabur-Vatika-Coconut-Hair-150ml/dp/B000JWQ3NC)– it’s cheap and works great, and it lasts a long time. Any Indian/Pakistani grocery store will have it, as will some Asian grocery stores.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/26 "2010-05-14T00:22:41Z")

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> [@Ruby](#):
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> I just got a Pantene Shampoo and Conditioner specific for frizz. It’s in a tube rather than a bottle. I’m pretty happy with it even though I’ve only used it twice.

Good to hear! Conicidentally, I picked up some this afternoon on the way home from work. The constant wind and dryness we’ve been having over the past 3-4 weeks has not been kind to anyone’s hair. Windblown loses its appeal after a couple days of the wind messing up your hair every time you go outside.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/27 "2010-05-14T01:51:35Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> Yep, and I was using an Aveda shampoo. L’Oreal is a ton cheaper, too!!

I had been using Aveda as well and found that Head & Shoulders works much better for me. They recently started producing a conditioner, I assume to appeal to the female market more, and it really worked with me. I use the Smooth & Silky formula.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/28 "2010-05-14T02:13:05Z")

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I agree with **purplehorseshoe** , cheap shampoo is alright but never ever cheap conditioner. Watching for coupons and sales, I rotate between a few different brands, the cheap stuff but the better cheap stuff. Dove, Garnier Fructis, Aussie, etc.

I bet just by switching to Suave shampoo and GF conditioner you’d notice a huge difference.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/29 "2010-05-14T03:00:37Z")

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I’m another one with curly, dry hair. I rarely shampoo it, but condition it everyday with a good conditioner (right now, I’m partial to the John Freida line). I also use leave in conditioner anytime I take a pick to it (no combs for me and rarely a brush). I also do a cholestrol treatment once a month.

Regular trims, even when you wear your hair long are essential. The split ends and broken strands keep it from what can be fairly sleek or healthy looking hair.

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**Author:** ![Lagavulin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@Lagavulin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lagavulin)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/30 "2010-05-14T12:35:06Z")

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It definitely helps to keep it trimmed. I didn’t really appreciate that until I started doing it. I also have dry, frizzy, curly hair. I use Tresemme Moisture Rich conditioner and shampoo. Sometimes I don’t shampoo (can be drying) but I ALWAYS condition.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-and-conditioner/539253/31 "2010-05-14T14:32:14Z")

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Another vote for sulfate-free shampoo. I have sorta curly hair, so I use Bed Head Foxy Curls formula. No more frizzies! Especially here where it’s so humid.

I detangle with Paul Mitchell, but otherwise, I really don’t need conditioner anymore.

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