# Shaq traded to the Cavaliers **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 25, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965 "2009-06-25T17:47:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/21 "2009-06-25T23:18:28Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Can he be any worse than big Z? No, but I don’t seen Shaq as the final piece to the puzzle either. I’d rather have taken my chances with Tyson Chandler. > [@DigitalC](#): > > This could be Shaqs fourth different team to reach the finals, third to win a title. Those gotta be records right? Being on four different franchises that made it to the Finals would be a record, AFAIK. As for being on three different championship teams, Robert Horry’s already done that (Houston, Lakers and Spurs). He was on Phoenix for a time too, but they didn’t even make the playoffs while he was there. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/22 "2009-06-26T00:18:55Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Just heard that. I kinda wish we’d kept Courtney Lee and dumped Pietrus, just because Courtney’s so much cheaper right now, but fuckin’ woot! During the season i would have agreed wholeheartedly, but after the incredible run Pietrus had in the playoffs i really want to keep him to be our bench scorer. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/23 "2009-06-26T00:38:02Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > During the season i would have agreed wholeheartedly, but after the incredible run Pietrus had in the playoffs i really want to keep him to be our bench scorer. He can’t be our bench scorer - we just traded our other starting 2-guard. Who’s going to start if he’s coming off the bench? Redick? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/24 "2009-06-26T00:41:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He can’t be our bench scorer - we just traded our other starting 2-guard. Who’s going to start if he’s coming off the bench? Redick? Nelson, Turkoglu, Carter, Lewis, Howard! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/25 "2009-06-26T01:01:51Z")
Which one gets moved to the backcourt? Rashard is too slow, and Hedo is too valuable at SF. I suppose Carter could move back to the 2 spot. He’s always played at small forward in the pros, though, right? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/26 "2009-06-26T01:24:24Z")
I always thought he was a shooting guard. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/27 "2009-06-26T01:59:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He’s going to be in the way while LeBron goes to the rim. Was it really that long ago that Shaq pulled people from the rim for Dwyane Wade? ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/28 "2009-06-26T02:00:40Z")
I have to think Turkoglu and Gortat are going to be gone after that trade. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/29 "2009-06-26T02:25:48Z")
Gortat was a goner already, some team was bound to offer him a mid level exception because he is clearly worth it and Orlando just couldn’t match that and sign Turk. Whether this means bye bye to Turkoglu also is yet to be seen, they might be willing to go into the luxury tax to get a title before 2010 when anything could happen. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/30 "2009-06-26T02:33:55Z")
That keep Shaq away from the Mavs. Dampier isn’t great, but he’s better than an aging Shaq. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/31 "2009-06-26T03:15:25Z")
I think it might work…although fast forwarding WAY into the future if Cleveland does win a championship… How does a bubble team _not_ go out and get Shaq just to win a trophy? The Lakers hadn’t gotten over the hump in a while…get Shaq…3 titles The Heat needed an extra push inside…get Shaq…BOOM a title. Cleveland can’t get win with who they have…get Shaq…Boom title. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/32 "2009-06-26T13:14:19Z")
I predict failure. Shaq’s best days are behind him, and King James and he just might clash ego-wise. LeBron has gotten awfully used to being top guy for the Cavs, and Shaq will not easily drop into the role of second fiddle. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/33 "2009-06-26T13:45:44Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I have to think Turkoglu and Gortat are going to be gone after that trade. Here’s the thing, though - if we can’t sign Turkoglu (which obviously looks much less likely now), we probably _can_ re-sign Gortat. **EH** , I don’t think that will be the problem. Shaq seemed happy to play second fiddle (or at least fiddle 1B) to Dwyane Wade. I just don’t think there’s much good basketball left in those knees. Maybe a good half season, but not a whole season and playoff run. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/34 "2009-06-26T15:24:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > As a Doper, I feel compelled to point out that _nobody_ is getting younger. Except for [this guy!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421715/) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/35 "2009-06-26T15:38:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **EH** , I don’t think that will be the problem. Shaq seemed happy to play second fiddle (or at least fiddle 1B) to Dwyane Wade. > > I just don’t think there’s much good basketball left in those knees. Maybe a good half season, but not a whole season and playoff run. I wonder if he’d be happy playing like 20 minutes a game, or only 3 games out of four and no back-to-backs, with the promise of returning to full-time come the playoffs. Has anyone managed to make that kind of system work for a fragile-but-talented player? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/36 "2009-06-26T15:43:12Z")
He’d probably be happy to just sit out until the last quarter of the season - Shaq’s never exactly been a high-workrate guy. I’m thinking the problem is more on management’s end than his end; how do you tell your fanbase that you just signed a future Hall of Fame center but they can’t watch him until February? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/37 "2009-06-26T16:59:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He’d probably be happy to just sit out until the last quarter of the season - Shaq’s never exactly been a high-workrate guy. I’m thinking the problem is more on management’s end than his end; how do you tell your fanbase that you just signed a future Hall of Fame center but they can’t watch him until February? Depends. Do the fans want to be in the Finals again? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/38 "2009-06-26T17:07:08Z")
They live in Cleveland. Misery is a constant companion. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/39 "2009-06-26T17:08:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > They live in Cleveland. Misery is a constant companion. 😉 Understandable, but there will only be more misery. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965/40 "2009-06-27T16:33:00Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > “Witness Protection” seems to have the edge. [Witness protection.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/dawgpound76/SHAQ.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shaq-traded-to-the-cavaliers/500965.md?page=3)