# Share a few words about the teams you have despised **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 23, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799 "2014-04-23T20:04:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/21 "2014-04-24T08:49:58Z")
Figures, the Cubs can’t even win _that_ title. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/22 "2014-04-24T09:01:52Z")
Atlanta Braves, and their fucking lame and slow chant. If any REAL braves chanted like that at battle, everyone must’ve been stoned on wampum or something. It’s so lame and insulting, I root against them whenever I see any team play them. And when they give up a run, I have no problem slow-chanting, “YOOOOOOU FUCKING SUUUUUUUCK, BRAAAAVES FUCKING SUUUUUUCK.” Maybe it’s also the closest thing to a crowd-inspired brown noise, 'cause when the Brave fans do it, I need to take a crap. 😃 Of course, I DID love the times-- what was it, 10 NL pennants and ONE World Series win? Ah, baseball karma. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/23 "2014-04-24T14:15:14Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Well if we’re talking owners then Bill Wirtz is in purgatory being constantly high sticked and cross checked into the boards. > Outside of hockey there are reports he wasn’t a bad guy so I’ll concede he _probably_ escaped the eternal fiery pit. Oh my God. He was _worse_ outside of hockey. He [lobbied the state legislature for years](http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/bye-bye-bells/Content?oid=923858) to relieve his liquor distribution business from the un-American threat of competition and [fought successfully](http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/05/prweb965344.htm) to ensure that Illinoisans couldn’t ship in wine from out of state or out of country. (Because that would bypass his distributors, don’t you see.) > [@](#): > > The infamous “Wirtz Law,” nicknamed for William Wirtz, Chicago Blackhawks president and owner of the giant liquor distributor Judge & Dolph, was passed by the state legislature in 1999, after Wirtz and other liquor lobbyists contributed over $700,000 to state legislators, according to the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform. Officially known as the Wine and Spirits Fair Dealing Act, it prevented wineries and distillers from leaving their distributors without just cause. After it passed, distributors raised prices across the board. The law was on the books for less than three years before a U.S. district court judge struck it down on the grounds that it violated the commerce clause of the Constitution. Newspaper editorials at the time often called the Wirtz Law a corrupt document, and it has since become a case study for campaign finance reform. He was a corrupt pig who ran the Blackhawks into the ground as a sideshow. ---
**Author:** ![Pixel\_Dent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pixel\_Dent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixel_Dent)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/24 "2014-04-24T14:56:43Z")
The Yankees owner during their domination of MLB during the 50’s and early 60’s was Del Webb who bought the club using profits from building Japanese Internment camps. The US Legal system has officially stated that the Yankees are in fact an evil empire. In 2013 a panel of judges in a trademark case stated, “In short, the record shows that there is only one Evil Empire in baseball and it is the New York Yankees.” Routing for the Yankees is like going to a casino and routing for the house. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/25 "2014-04-24T15:31:12Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Atlanta Braves, and their fucking lame and slow chant. If any REAL braves chanted like that at battle, everyone must’ve been stoned on wampum or something. It’s so lame and insulting, I root against them whenever I see any team play them. And when they give up a run, I have no problem slow-chanting, “YOOOOOOU FUCKING SUUUUUUUCK, BRAAAAVES FUCKING SUUUUUUCK.” Maybe it’s also the closest thing to a crowd-inspired brown noise, 'cause when the Brave fans do it, I need to take a crap. 😃 > > Of course, I DID love the times-- what was it, **10 NL pennants and ONE World Series win? Ah, baseball karma.** I’m not a baseball fan, as I’ve noted. However, back in the '80s I remember that the Braves were pretty poor. When they turned things around in the '90s I remember pulling for them (I have a thing for underdog stories even in sports I don’t really care about) but when I saw them repeatedly make the playoffs (and usually as division champs) and then FLOP in said playoffs I got turned off to them. The chant doesn’t help. And looking back on it I’m surprised that they DID manage a WS win (wasn’t it against the Indians, though?). ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/26 "2014-04-24T16:34:39Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > Re: the 'pies: I don’t know much about that game in 1979 (or at least I didn’t until I read your post - :)) Glad to have filled you in. I really wish you could get films of old NFL games, because even despite the ending, it was one doozy of a game. > [@](#): > > and if you know anything about NFL history you know that the Raiders and the Steelers weren’t exactly pals back in the '70s and that that whole “Immaculate Reception” business was @#@#@ LUCK. Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah, that play was total and complete luck, and I’m sure people still argue about whether Jack Tatum actually touched the ball in between Jon Fuqua (the intended receiver) and Franco Harris, who had the good fortune to be in the right place at the right instant. But luck is part of the game. What wasn’t luck, though, is where the Steelers went from there during the rest of the decade. (And they beat the Cowboys twice in the Hyperbole, which always gladdens my heart to remember.) > [@TriPolar](#): > > The Redskins are the worst team in the history of the NFL. No matter how much effort they put into improving the team they still suck. Good players lose their will live by playing on that team. Even when they look like they’re getting somewhere it’s just a set up for a major foul up. They disgust me. > > Phillies fan for 45 years, Redskins fan for 58. Yeah, I forgot to mention The Danny, whom I absolutely loathe. It’s really too bad the fans can’t fire an owner, because if they could, he’d be gone faster than Fox News can gin up a fake scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/27 "2014-04-24T17:31:00Z")
It was pretty easy hating the Potomac Drainage Basin Indigenous Persons even before the Snyder takeover. But when he fired many of the low ranking staffers and insisted that all employees refer to him as “Mr. Snyder,” he hurdled the franchise into a new atmospheric level of hatefulness. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/28 "2014-04-24T17:53:21Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > It was pretty easy hating the Potomac Drainage Basin Indigenous Persons even before the Snyder takeover. But when he fired many of the low ranking staffers and insisted that all employees refer to him as “Mr. Snyder,” he hurdled the franchise into a new atmospheric level of hatefulness. Can’t forget when he pulled strings to get a whole bunch of trees on Park Service (C&O Canal) land just so he could have a river view from his mansion. Yeah, he’s an all-around repugnant human being. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/29 "2014-04-24T19:36:53Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > I stand corrected. The Phillies are only the 6th worst team in MLB history when it comes to overall record. Right, but they’re the worst of the “Original 16”. The Browns/Orioles are only team that can even give them a run. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/30 "2014-04-24T20:35:42Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > Wow, leave it a Philadelphia fan to talk about their own team in a thread titled, “Share a few words about the teams you have despised.” > > What’s next, booing the Liberty Bell? 😃 **Homer** : Stupid Isotopes. Hurry up and lose so we can get outta here! **Lisa** : Why do you hate the Isotopes so much, Dad? **Homer** : Because I loved them once, and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you, sweetie: never love anything. **Lisa** : Even you? **Homer** : _Especially_ me. **Bart** : But you gotta support the team, Dad! They’re already threatening to move to Moose Jaw. **Marge** : That’s right! Like my mother always said, you’ve got to stick it out, even if you picked a loser… (sees Homer picking at his ear and looking at his finger afterward) …to the bitter end. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/31 "2014-04-24T20:49:44Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Glad to have filled you in. I really wish you could get films of old NFL games, because even despite the ending, it was one doozy of a game. > > \*\*Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah, that play was total and complete luck, and I’m sure people still argue about whether Jack Tatum actually touched the ball in between Jon Fuqua (the intended receiver) and Franco Harris, who had the good fortune to be in the right place at the right instant. But luck is part of the game. > > What wasn’t luck, though, is where the Steelers went from there during the rest of the decade. \*\* (And they beat the Cowboys twice in the Hyperbole, which always gladdens my heart to remember.) > Yeah, I forgot to mention The Danny, whom I absolutely loathe. It’s really too bad the fans can’t fire an owner, because if they could, he’d be gone faster than Fox News can gin up a fake scandal. I never include the part about “Did it hit ‘The Assassin’ or ‘Frenchy’ last before Franco grabbed it?” when I mention that play because, frankly, I think the rule was kind of stupid. Even if you think it _wasn’t_ and even if the ball DID hit “Frenchy” last before Franco grabbed it I think any sane person could see that “Frenchy” Fuqua didn’t _deliberately_ touch that ball with the intention of having it served up for his teammate on a platter. Having typed that I stick by my assertion that it was a LUCKY play for the Steelers (I’ve seen a show where Raider LB Phil Villapiano pulls no punches when he states that “Had Franco been where he was _supposed_ to be on that play he wouldn’t have been anywhere NEAR that ball!”). Now, you’re absolutely right about the Steelers dominating most of the rest of that decade in the NFL, but the Raiders had their moment when they CRUSHED the Steelers in the 1976 AFC title game and then went on to hand the Vikings their 4th loss in 4 Super Bowls a couple of weeks later. And that was a Steelers team, mind you, that had THE top defense in the history of the NFL (at least according to Paul Zimmerman - “Dr. Z” - of Sports Illustrated in a book on top NFL offenses and defenses that he came out with about a decade or so ago) - even better than the Chicago Bears’ defense of 1985 which I thought was absolutely DEVASTATING (to this day that “D” holds - at least to my knowledge - the NFL record for sacks in a season. Remember how many it got? 72. That’s right. **72** in a 16-game regular season. Like I said - DEVASTATING). True, Steeler fans can always say that the “Raiders only won that game because we didn’t have Franco (Harris) or Rocky (Bleier) that day!” but Raider fans (and then-head coach John Madden) know better. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/32 "2014-04-24T20:50:56Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Can’t forget when he pulled strings to get a whole bunch of trees on Park Service (C&O Canal) land just so he could have a river view from his mansion. > > Yeah, he’s an all-around repugnant human being. Wow. I didn’t even know that about him and I already didn’t like him. Just another spoiled rich person who figures he can do whatever the hell he wants to. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/33 "2014-04-29T01:26:08Z")
What do the Flyers and the _Titanic_ have in common? Both look good until they hit the ice. 😃 I’m a Steelers fan, and I can’t stand Rapistberger. Even if the rape allegations are false, I can still believe the guy’s a tool. At least two family members of mine have had run-ins with the guy and both have said he’s a total douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/34 "2014-04-29T01:36:37Z")
Philadelphia Flyers, of the 1970s-80s. They were considered the most violent hockey team and played dirty. As a Sabres fan, we hated these guys. ETA: and the Cowboys. No reason necessary. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/35 "2014-04-29T01:48:36Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Philadelphia Flyers, of the 1970s-80s. They were considered the most violent hockey team and played dirty. As a Sabres fan, we hated these guys. That’s the only time Philadelphia loved one of it’s sports teams. They were the most violent hockey team ever, but they didn’t play dirty, they just gave back better than they got. Check out the HBO documentary on the Broad Street Bullies, you’ll see the violence was a reaction to how they were treated as an expansion team. > [@](#): > > ETA: and the Cowboys. No reason necessary. There are plenty of reasons though. America’s team my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/36 "2014-04-30T00:05:27Z")
A few words: The Lakers suck. It’s always a Good Day when the Dodgers lose. Cowboys. (Aikman era) Arrogant assholes. Yankees: I get them and the Baseball Furies confused. One’s a bunch of thugs with bats, the other’s a street gang. That’s about it… ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/37 "2014-04-30T02:30:30Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > Take note, football hooligans and Raider fans. Hopefully we can differentiate the two terms. Mother F’ing Raider fans. I’m a Chargers season ticket holder and there’s just really nothing like Raider fans. All the stuff you’ve ever heard about them is true. Gang-bangers, wanna-be tough guys, sink-pee-ers. I once saw an entire section of Raider fans at Qualcomm hauled off by the cops - _an entire section_. I suspect that most fan bases have fun with their rivals - “the team you love to hate” kind of stuff. There’s nothing fun about hating Raider fan when he starts getting stabby… and their team has been such unrelenting shit for a decade now that they get drunk early and stabbin’ drunk not long after. So Fuck You Raider fan. And no, don’t give me the “we’re not all like that” speech. Enough of you are like that. Too damn many. And more of you are like that than any other fan base in American sports. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/38 "2014-04-30T03:45:38Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > I hate the Cowboys. And the Maple Leafs. Sorry **Leaffan** An abused boy went before a judge to find a new home. The judge asked if the boy wanted to live with his aunt. The boy told the judge the aunt beat him, too. The judge asked the boy if he wanted to live with his grandma. The boy said grandma was more abusive than mom and dad. The judge asked the boy who he wanted to live with. The boy said he wanted to live with the Toronto Maple Leafs, since they were incapable of beating anyone.😃 > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Philadelphia Flyers, of the 1970s-80s. They were considered the most violent hockey team and played dirty. As a Sabres fan, we hated these guys. The Sabres? REALLY? The Slugs and Pens fans at the PNC are a bunch of drunken thugs I hate them. As a Packers fan, I say a prayer for Jay Cutler’s safety before every game. ---
**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/39 "2014-04-30T05:48:31Z")
Australian Rules tangent, I hate the Carlton football club. Cheating, whining, lower than shark shit pack of immoral arseholes. When my daughter asked me years ago if you could get pregnant from Anal Sex I replied “of course you can, where do you think Carlton supporters come from?” ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799/40 "2014-04-30T06:27:27Z")
The Australian cricket team under Ricky Ponting were whiny, rude assholes that most of the rest of the world disliked. They were also really successful and you may think that was the reason for the dislike, but Steve Waugh’s team also reached similar levels of success but wasn’t hated the same way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-a-few-words-about-the-teams-you-have-despised/686799.md?page=3)