# Share some surnames and let's see if we's kinfolk

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 20, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101 "2005-06-20T19:30:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/81 "2005-06-22T22:00:40Z")

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> [@lachesis](#):
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> paternal side:  
> Miller – probably English, again from Ohio  
> dang, i just realized i’ve never known my paternal grandmother’s last name. i know it was probably German, but that’s about it.

If there’s German on one side, then I’d suggest the Miller side could originally have been Mullers.

(I’m really just posting here to say that we’re location-kinfolk - I’m from Woodbridge v1.0a 🙂 )

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/82 "2005-06-22T22:34:56Z")

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The handful that I remember off the top of my head:

Fehr  
Warner  
MacKenzie  
MacGillicuddy (may be in error as to spelling)  
Ball  
James

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/83 "2005-06-22T22:45:54Z")

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I doubt anyone here has mine, Pinholster. Also there is Espinosa (which is just the Spanish version of Pinholster) or on th other sides, the very common Williams and Young. That’s all I’ll probably ever know.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/84 "2005-06-22T22:50:30Z")

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Porter, Furlotte, Mealey (O’Malley), Vautour, Belliveau, Stewert, Legere

by marriage:

Anderson, Stuart

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/85 "2005-06-22T23:15:01Z")

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If non-Merkins can play:

Bostock (Sydney [white] and Queensland [Aboriginal] since 184-something)  
Brownlee (Sydney region -ex-Scotland about 100 years ago maybe - supposedly related to the Irish branch of the same name too)  
Bustard (!) (English pickpocket transported to Australia - who for some reason changed this delightful surname to ‘Bostock’)  
Favelle (I think this one goes to France via 18th Century Kent, I think - the line does anyway, not sure about the name)  
Lawson (of the Henry [writer] variety)  
Mitchell (of the Sir Thomas [explorer] variety)

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**Ross** , the Oklahoma branch

**Upton  
Blair  
Devereaux  
Santner**

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> [@TheLoadedDog](#):
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> Bustard (!) (English pickpocket transported to Australia - who for some reason changed this delightful surname to ‘Bostock’)

The spoilsports! I wonder if [www.greatbustard.com](http://www.greatbustard.com) would have changed their opion.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/88 "2005-06-23T01:03:21Z")

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Wow! I really expected to see a few of my family names, and I did, just not as many as I expected.

I married a Noe. His family is in the W.Va., Kentucky, and western Va. area.  
My family - **Miller/Muller** and variations, **Hauser, James** (but was possibly Jacobus before a family spat split the family), **Mitchell, Martin, Spaugh/Spach, Tesh, Teague, Burk/Burke, Lashmit, Eichorn, Reid/Reed/Ried/Read**.

Arriving in the early 1700’s in Maine and Pa. settling and moving again, leaving branches along the way to present day Winston-Salem, NC and surrounding counties. As the west opened up, branches moved to the midwest, Ohio, Iowa, Indiana, and later to the west coast.

Mostly German, disputed Alsace region, a touch of French, Irish, Scot, and Swiss. The Native American is hard to pin down.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/89 "2005-06-23T01:05:13Z")

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Ack!

For the the Dutch!

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/90 "2005-06-23T02:43:25Z")

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Fincher, Gabbard, and Hollis (although only by marriage)

There are many more… my mom’s been doing research, but I don’t know any right now.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/91 "2005-06-23T06:04:55Z")

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> [@lachesis](#):
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> maternal side:
> 
> Hardik (or possibly Hardick. geez, all the family’s dying out, and i can’t remember how to spell my great-grandmother’s name) – probably Slovak, based in Punxsutawney, PA. there’s a vague story that some distance cousin went off and got a job at racetracks, possibly as a jockey, and changed the last name to Hardtack.

Another variant I’ve seen (not that I’m related) is [Hardiek.](http://mutigers.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/hardiek_blair00.html) The distant cousin is likely Bill [Hartack,](http://www.nantyglo.com/frm18.htm) who’s from Pennsylvania and won the Kentucky Derby five times before a career shift from jockey to track steward.

As for me, I haven’t seen any matches yet. Great-grandparents’ surnames were:

Mother’s side (Baltimore-based): Klemme, Huber, Blanchard, Hess

Father’s side (Cleveland, Ohio): Michl, Kozak, Strohs, Maruna

I also know of ancestors named Cordes (maternal) and Chanda (paternal). Not sure if I nailed either of those spellings, though the first eight are correct.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/92 "2005-06-23T06:29:12Z")

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> [@percypercy](#):
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> My dad is Emrich and Perry.

My mom is Perry.

On my American side: Perry, Long, Offutt, Thorp.

On my German side: Haarbart, Schwab.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/93 "2005-06-23T11:33:34Z")

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Here are all I know, ordered alphabetically:

**Altman** - Poland, by way of NYC.

**Feinstein** - The Ukraine, by way of Philadelphia and southern NJ.

**Friedland** - Friedland, natch (a track of land that was part of either Lithuania, Prussia, Poland or Russia, depending on the period in history; we like to think of it as our Litvak branch), by way of NYC.

**Steinig** - Galicia (Poland), by way of Philadelphia and southern NJ.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/94 "2005-06-23T11:55:27Z")

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**Tyson** \> ? (possibly from Palatine, Germany\>Philadelphia\>Virginia)

**Randall** \>Scotland\>Virginia

**Suthard** (aka Southard)\>Scotland\>Virginia

Both the Randalls and Southards got here (VA) about 1630. The Tysons (Tisons) start showing up around 1700.

We haven’t moved more than 20 miles in any direction since then.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/95 "2005-06-23T12:10:53Z")

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I don’t know a lot of family names, but here’s a few:

Maternal: Moore, Waters (Ohio)  
Paternal: Holliday, Hill (Ohio, W. Va, Fla.)

Married Paternal: Harris (changed from Rosovski or Rosofsky, W. Va, Virginia, Cal.)  
Married Maternal: Yontz (w. Va.)

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/96 "2005-06-23T12:46:32Z")

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> [@Pixisis](#):
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> COUSIN ! 😃
> 
> So our common ancestor is Isaac Allerton. (I am descended from his second marriage, you’re from his first.)
> 
> do you know how many generations you are from Remember, or to put it another way how many greats before grandmother ?  
> and, this could get a little weird, but I know a Roberts that is my 12th cousin 1 removed, through William Brewster, whose daughter Fear married Isaac. Do you know if your Roberts has a Brewster antecedant ? we could be double cousins !

Wow, how fun is this?!

I will go home tonight and check my lineage - I actually have a terrifically cool “family wheel” from my Grandfather that shows actual lineage only (parents only, that is) starting with my great-grandparents and going back, in some cases to the 1630’s. I know that Adam Hawkes is the linear descendant of Remember Allerton, and the Roberts side married in to that - my grandmother was a Craigie Street (Cambridge, MA) Maxwell, and I believe her mother’s maiden name is the Roberts connection.

I’m guessing we’re tied in several ways - all those people were pretty picky about who they married way back then.

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**Belles** from central Pennsylvania (and some quick Googling tells me there’s a whole crap-load of them around those parts, and,

**LeCompte** from New Jersey. I know they’ve been there for a while. One of my uncles traced some LeComptes back to the area that is now Allaire State Park in the late 1700s.

I know pitifully little about my ancestors. One of my uncles did a lot of research some years back; I’ll have to see if my cousin has any of his papers.

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Let’s run with Mom and Dad’s mom and dad… in no particular order, MacDougall, O’Neill, Flesher, Murray.

I’d look good in a kilt pretty much by default.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/99 "2005-06-23T14:14:50Z")

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> [@psycat90](#):
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> Reyes, Santiago, Rivera, De la O Millan, Cortes, Martinez, Rodriguez, Morales, Rosado, Hernandez.

Betcha we’re cousins someplace, even though I don’t come up with any commons. The De la O Millan is a funny one, are you sure it isn’t two (De la O and Millán)? Morales is very common in my part of Spain, but uncommon in other areas. The -ez ones are just all over the place…

Ochoa de Olza, Velasco, Sanz, Zanni (Italian), Arrieta, Blosed (original spelling Drossel, it’s German and reached Spain via France), Arilla, Fernández, Ríos, Osés, Yániz, Armendáriz and that’s without digging out the family tree.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-some-surnames-and-lets-see-if-wes-kinfolk/309101/100 "2005-06-23T14:17:13Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Lessee: Mickey, Joos, Schmelzer/Schmeltzer, Spires, Christ (no kidding!)
> 
> My mother has done extensive genealogy, but I can’t remember any more.

There’s a family in my hometown called Cristo. They always name the first male Jesús, for obvious reasons.

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