# Share your Covidiot stories

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [April 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854 "2020-04-29T22:21:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/381 "2020-08-23T13:42:41Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> There’s a great case study out of India that suggests that face shield are quite effective. Several social workers wearing only surgical masks and other PPE practices (sans face shields) caught COVID-19 from quarantined families they visited. When they donned face shields, no more caught it after seeing over a thousand people who tested positive not long after their visits.

It’s important to note that they wore shields **in addition to** masks, not that they wore shields instead of masks. Shields on their own are likely not very effective, like in this resort where the people who wore shields-only got infected but those wearing mask-only did not:

> **[‘Only those with plastic visors were infected’: Swiss government warns...](https://www.thelocal.ch/20200715/only-those-with-plastic-visors-were-infected-swiss-government-warns-against-face-shields)**
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> After a coronavirus outbreak where only those wearing plastic visors were infected, the Swiss government has said plastic shields are inadequate protection and should only be worn in combination with a face mask.

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> Only those with plastic visors were infected’: Swiss government warns against face shields

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/382 "2020-08-23T13:57:34Z")

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I’m annoyed by the countless number of people who wear a mask but don’t cover their nose. It’s maddening, because even employees at work do it. But even more annoying are the employees who seem to think they only need to wear the mask when customers are present, and don’t bother when in the store before we open. And guess what, we just had two more people get it.

I really hate the masks that have swoops under the eyes - they seem designed to create a gap around the nose. Just about everyone I see in one have it too loose at the top so there is a gap. Some have their mask dropping down.

The reasons most people give for not covering their nose:

1. “I can’t breathe.” Well duh.
2. “It fogs up my glasses.” Yeah, I know, me, too. Pull it tighter, use the nose wire, and try to set your glasses on top of the edge.
3. “It irritates my face/it itches/it scratches.” I sympathize. Have you tried other masks? Maybe a multilayer cloth one will feel better.

I saw one lady at the post office, she was wearing a surgical mask, but she was wearing it upside down. She was using the wire to make the bottom edge stiff so it stuck off her face at the bottom. I guess it is sort of like a fsce shield, dropping any exhaled virus particles down onto her shirt. I’m not sure if that really is any safer.

But the worst was two older customers who came in. Their “masks” consisted of a hand-sized piece of clear plastic supported a couple inches from their faces. Sort of like a tiny face shield, except supported from the bottom, not hanging from the top. It was open all around. Sort of a tiny personal sneeze guard. 🙄

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/383 "2020-08-23T14:50:55Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> When a mask repeatedly slips below the nose, it’s because of an ill-fitting mask, not a particular size/shape of nose. No mask should rely on a prominent nose to hold it up. If a mask conforms to the face and the ear loops aren’t too large or stretched-out, it won’t fall down.

Agreed. Also, a lot of people don’t seem to realize that many commercially produced masks (like surgical masks) have a wire at the top that you are supposed to bend to conform to the shape of your nose.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/384 "2020-08-23T15:19:26Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> It’s important to note that they wore shields **in addition to** masks, not that they wore shields instead of masks. Shields on their own are likely not very effective, like in this resort where the people who wore shields-only got infected but those wearing mask-only did not:
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> [https://www.thelocal.ch/20200715/only-those-with-plastic-visors-were-infected-swiss-government-warns-against-face-shields](https://www.thelocal.ch/20200715/only-those-with-plastic-visors-were-infected-swiss-government-warns-against-face-shields)
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> > Only those with plastic visors were infected’: Swiss government warns against face shields

Thanks for posting this - I’ve linked to it here before. It’s clear, real-life evidence that they don’t provide protection from the virus. A face shield is essentially the same as walking around with a clear plastic page protector held in front of one’s face.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/385 "2020-08-23T15:48:52Z")

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A page protector would be an improvement over the one I just saw. Another one of those plastic screens, this one about 4 inches tall. It wrapped around the sides, but is open top and bottom.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/386 "2020-08-23T18:59:14Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> It’s important to note that they wore shields **in addition to** masks, not that they wore shields instead of masks. Shields on their own are likely not very effective, like in this resort where the people who wore shields-only got infected but those wearing mask-only did not:

Of course. The title of the paper is “Plastic Shields Seem to Make Masks Better.” Which is why I said I wear a shield with a mask. The point I was trying to make was that simply having a surgical mask with so many covid positive people was not enough, even though they were not treating the people. They were probably also practicing social distancing. The shield effectively complemented the surgical mask.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/387 "2020-08-23T22:42:35Z")

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I saw one yesterday – a lady went up to the counter at an ice cream stand holding a small paper napkin over her mouth and one nostril.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/388 "2020-08-24T00:48:14Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> a lady went up to the counter at an ice cream stand holding a small paper napkin over her mouth and one nostril.

You know what they say, you can’t fix stupid.

Another favorite, pulling their t-shirt up, holding it over mouth and nose long enough to get in the door of a public place, then dropping it back down.

When I see an employee wearing it under nose or pulling it on as they leave the back room I come home and send a customer service feedback to the management and let them know what it will take for me to continue to spend money there. I never report an employee’s name because I’m trying to get better mask training and supervision over all, not get any one employee singled out.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/389 "2020-08-24T04:01:59Z")

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[The Archbishop of Sydney has told Catholics to boycott the coronavirus vaccine that the Federal Government struck a deal to purchase 25 million doses of last week over “ethical concerns”.](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-24/sydney-catholic-archbishop-warns-pm-against-coronavirus-vaccine/12588578)

> Anthony Fisher, the Archbishop of Sydney, used social media to criticise the vaccine being developed at Oxford University, saying it “makes use of a cell line cultured from an electively aborted human foetus”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/390 "2020-08-24T04:10:23Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Anthony Fisher, the Archbishop of Sydney, used social media to criticise the vaccine being developed at Oxford University, saying it “makes use of a cell line cultured from an electively aborted human foetus”-

Give it up, dipshit. God is not bringing the fetus back to life no matter how many people you kill.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/391 "2020-08-24T16:38:41Z")

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lol, this is the same vaccine that Trump is saying he’ll fast track before the election. Wait until the evangelicals get a hold of this!

> **[Trump reportedly considers fast tracking AstraZeneca vaccine before election](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/23/trump-considering-fast-tracking-astrazeneca-vaccine-before-election.html)**
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> The availability of a vaccine before the U.S. presidential election could allow President Donald Trump to justify his administration's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, which has faced widespread criticism.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/392 "2020-08-24T23:56:45Z")

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Oddly, we got an email this morning saying that employees who need them can request an N95 mask. These will be available for people who have to spend time in the field and who want protection from the smoke.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/393 "2020-08-25T00:57:03Z")

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For the record, Archbishop Fisher seems to be out of step with his church (he’s the Roman Catholic bishop of Sydney).

This has come up before, and the Church has responded -

[https://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocument.htm](https://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocument.htm)

I know nothing about the positions of the Greek Orthodox Church or the Anglican Church on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/394 "2020-08-25T12:26:02Z")

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“Fight the COVID-19 pseudoscience and speak up!”

Noted epidemiologist Van Morrison arguing for 100% capacity shows.

> <https://twitter.com/irishtimescultr/status/1298188630809145344?s=21>

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/395 "2020-08-26T05:18:57Z")

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I made the mistake of reading the comments. Plenty of Covidiots on that side of the pond, too, apparently.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/396 "2020-08-26T12:47:02Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Noted epidemiologist Van Morrison arguing for 100% capacity shows.

It’s amazing how hard it is to convince someone to forego income even at the cost of other people’s lives.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/397 "2020-08-26T13:34:56Z")

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It’s even weirder that, barring any sort of financial stupidity on his part, Van Morrison is probably well off.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/398 "2020-08-26T14:33:11Z")

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_But_, Van The Man has had a rough career (according to him) constantly being trampled by media and the music industry.

[Cite](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/no-guru-no-method-no-manners-1.445338)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/399 "2020-08-26T15:31:16Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> It’s even weirder that, barring any sort of financial stupidity on his part, Van Morrison is probably well off.

For most people for many things and especially money: “Way too much is not quite enough.”

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/400 "2020-08-27T07:40:32Z")

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How to make the Covidiots take it seriously:

This is silly fiction, but I thought it would be a fun post to put there. I just spotted this at Not Always Right . com:

> [@](#):
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> A bit of backstory for anyone reading old stories years from now: there’s a global health crisis going on, and a lot of people are acting like it’s either fake or no big deal. I’m waiting for an x-ray, and I overhear some medical workers talking.
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> Worker #1: “Did you hear that [disease] causes a loss of ability to orgasm?”
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> Worker #2: “No! Where did you hear that?”
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> Worker #1: “My girlfriend and I made it up, but if we spread that around, maybe people would actually care.

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