# Share your Covidiot stories

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [April 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854 "2020-04-29T22:21:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1002 "2021-08-21T23:01:32Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> My best friend was anti-Reagan, anti-Republican, and anti-Fascist in the '80s. Now he’s anti-Antifa, likes Trump, and is spreading anti-vax articles (e.g., VAERS ‘data’ reporting adverse effects and deaths from the COVID vaccine).

Wow. That’s quite a turnaround. I wonder what triggered that.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1003 "2021-08-22T00:22:17Z")

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I’ll ask again, seriously, would it be wrong or in bad taste to start a thread of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid?

Phil Valentine takes one for the covidiot team.

> **[Conservative Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines Dies of COVID-19](https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-radio-host-phil-valentine-who-recorded-beatles-parody-about-vaccines-dies-from-coronavirus)**
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> Phil Valentine derided coronavirus vaccines, but he changed his tune when he was hospitalized.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1004 "2021-08-22T01:11:39Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@teelabrown](#):
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> > If an unvaccinated person received a blood transfusion from a vaccinated person, would the receiver go on to develop antibodies and be considered vaccinated?
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> I can’t claim I’m an expert on the immune system but from what little I know I would say no. The small amount of antibodies (not the antigen) the transfusion introduces won’t trigger the production of more antibodies.

The recipient of a transfusion from a Covid-19 vaccinated person likely would provide _some_ passive immunity, lasting probably weeks to a few months. Whether this would be significantly protective against infection or serious disease hasn’t been resolved to my knowledge. According to the following article from a few months ago, the Red Cross is accepting blood donations from vaccinated people but due to lack of sufficient data, not automatically treating them the same as convalescent plasma from previously infected people (which has been used with varying results in treating the sick). Donations are tested for anti-Covid-19 antibodies and if levels are sufficient high, the plasma can be added to the convalescent plasma supply.

[http://reuters.com/article/factcheck-redcross-vaccinated/fact-check-red-cross-is-accepting-plasma-from-people-vaccinated-against-covid-19-idUSL1N2MR1HU](http://reuters.com/article/factcheck-redcross-vaccinated/fact-check-red-cross-is-accepting-plasma-from-people-vaccinated-against-covid-19-idUSL1N2MR1HU)

It’d be a twist if people were specifically requesting transfusions from the vaccinated in order to get extra protection, but they’d be out of luck just like the antivax paranoids.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1005 "2021-08-22T23:00:37Z")

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I finally had enough of my long hair and went for an appointment Saturday. I was wearing a mask, the stylist wore a mask (at my request)…and that was it. 😕 I can only guess why one of the customers stared at me the whole time.

Bonus: another stylist waiting on her next client made small talk while I was waiting for a dryer. She asked what I did for a living; I told her “mechanical engineer.” She responded, “I don’t even know what that is,” and then proceeded to conflate it with people who puff up their job descriptions by adding ‘engineer’ to their title (e.g., a janitor who calls themselves a “sanitation engineer”). ☹

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1006 "2021-08-22T23:46:37Z")

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I just found out that my cousin, whose nurse’s aide daughter convinced her not to get vaxxed, had to take her husband to urgent care on Thurs for covid. And the next day, the daughter (who lives with my cousin and sick husband along with daughter’s 8-yr-old son) sent her son to school despite being exposed. Knowing the Trumpist region they’re in, it’s probably not uncommon.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1007 "2021-08-22T23:48:37Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Wow. That’s quite a turnaround. I wonder what triggered that.

My theory is, 9/11 actually drove a lot of people quietly insane, and they embraced right wing authoritarianism as the big strong protector who would keep them safe.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1008 "2021-08-23T02:28:05Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> My theory is, 9/11 actually drove a lot of people quietly insane, and they embraced right wing authoritarianism as the big strong protector who would keep them safe.

Oh, absolutely. It’s known as having a Dennis Miller Complex.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1009 "2021-08-23T02:45:49Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Wow. That’s quite a turnaround. I wonder what triggered that.

He’s always been attracted to conspiracy theories, such as the Bilderbergers. (He made a science fiction comedy based on CTs.) But when I really noticed his change was when Obamacare happened. He thought it was wrong that he should be forced to buy insurance. He really seemed to go over the edge five years ago, citing Russia Today articles as if they weren’t from an arm of Russian intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1010 "2021-08-23T13:44:10Z")

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Quoting Dr. Lee Merritt, an orthopedic surgeon, who styles herself “The Medical Rebel”, on the dangers of “shedding” by those who’ve been vaccinated against Covid-19:

“I myself had the experience of touching a recently vaccinated patient, and almost a week later, developed significant nose bleeding that stopped only after dosing with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Many would say that this was a coincidence, but at age 68, this was the first nosebleed of my life.”

Sounds incontrovertible to me. 😜

> **[Back Away From “America’s Frontline Doctors”](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/back-away-americas-frontline-doctors)**
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> Not a day goes by without a video being forwarded to me accompanied by the question, “Is this true?” Invariably the answer is “um..no..there is no evidence,” and that usually ends the discussion. Sometimes, though, I can discern that a video has legs...

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1011 "2021-08-23T15:09:35Z")

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I would say that was just his remaining sane brain cells trying to escape. 😃

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**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1012 "2021-08-24T01:13:28Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> My theory is, 9/11 actually drove a lot of people quietly insane, and they embraced right wing authoritarianism as the big strong protector who would keep them safe.

This, absolutely. I’ve thought this for a long long time and have witnessed or heard stories about happy, reasonable people who turned into rampaging right-wing hate-mongers after 9/11. It’s as if their underpinnings were all knocked out from underneath them along with their naïve belief in this country’s infallibility in one fell swoop and they never recovered, never put the events in perspective and moved on. I’ve known people like this and it’s often made me wonder if I ever really knew these people at all.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1013 "2021-08-24T03:15:04Z")

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I had another one today who will not get vaccinated. They hit me with the “relative in health care” who has seen all of the bad effects, the “400,000 people have died from the vaccines” and the friend of a friend who “got the vaccine and died four days later”. I countered with “it’s now FDA approved”, “if 400,000 people have died from the vaccines then where are they and why do they not seem to be missing” and “people die suddenly every day but that doesn’t mean a vaccine is to blame”.  
I even tried “Would you take a bullet for your child? Why then won’t you take a vaccine to protect them?”  
I closed with “I am seriously considering requiring all unvaccinated patients to be seen remotely” and was accused of discriminating against the unvaccinated. I then managed to force myself to drop it since I was this close to losing a new patient. I did put into the patient instructions that I recommended tetanus, shingles and Covid vaccinations. I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall. While the hospital physicians are actively treating Covid, I am stuck here trying to argue a hopeless case.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1014 "2021-08-24T03:21:14Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall.

Holy cow, I feel like banging my head against a wall on your behalf.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Bdkzzy8.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/Bdkzzy8.png)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1015 "2021-08-24T06:46:59Z")

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This, possibly arguably, belongs here in the Covidiot thread:

Pfizer brand-names their newly-FDA-approved vaccine “Comirnaty”:

> **[Behold the online roast of ‘Comirnaty,’ the brand name of the Pfizer vaccine](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/23/comirnaty-pfizer-vaccine-mocked-twitter/)**
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> Writer Drew Magary likened it to “a Philly resident trying to say ‘community.’”

(In contrast, word is leaking out that Moderna, when their vax is fully approved, will call it “SpikeVax”.)

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> Not helping Pfizer/Comirnaty’s case is that, in reality, the Moderna vaccine will have the objectively cooler name: SpikeVax. How utterly metal.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1016 "2021-08-24T11:06:59Z")

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So we’ve got a person who thinks that you can’t be trusted to provide accurate medical information, but who also thinks that you shouldn’t be allowed to deprive them of your medial services? Truly this is a dizzying intellect.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1017 "2021-08-24T11:21:48Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> He’s always been attracted to conspiracy theories, such as the Bilderbergers. (He made a science fiction comedy based on CTs.) But when I really noticed his change was when Obamacare happened. He thought it was wrong that he should be forced to buy insurance. He really seemed to go over the edge five years ago, citing Russia Today articles as if they weren’t from an arm of Russian intelligence.

The juxtaposition of comedy and Russian ops gives me a mental image of the Moscow Troll Farm requiring the trolls to get vaccinated in order to keep their jobs spreading vaccine disinformation to the West.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1018 "2021-08-24T11:34:01Z")

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medical, not medial…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1019 "2021-08-24T15:08:54Z")

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Oh, the pain…

[Trump Supporters Were Asked If They Got Vaccinated And You Know What Happened Next (yahoo.com)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporters-were-asked-got-091243585.html)

The woman who got to say the most trusted Sherri Tenpenny more than she trusted her own doctor. (Her doctor advised her to be vaccinated.) She doesn’t trust the FDA or the CDC or ‘any of them’. Despite the Pfizer vaccine being fully approved, she says there needs to be more testing. (She suggested ten years.) When the reporter said Trump was vaccinated, she was like ‘That’s what they tell you. I don’t think he was.’ (This, in spite of Trump himself saying a couple of times that he’s been vaccinated.)

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1020 "2021-08-24T20:51:22Z")

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[https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/klickitat-county-sheriff-bob-songer-covid/281-eed17fba-6787-47b5-8810-f4bf36f26a23](https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/klickitat-county-sheriff-bob-songer-covid/281-eed17fba-6787-47b5-8810-f4bf36f26a23)

> [@](#):
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> Songer has [openly criticized](https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/klickitat-county-sheriff-wont-enforce-new-covid-19-restrictions/293-7b610f1a-1b7c-40a6-a0d5-fc198d238cf2) Gov. Jay Inslee’s COVID-19 restrictions and public health mandates like social distancing. In November 2020, [Songer said](https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/klickitat-county-sheriff-wont-enforce-new-covid-19-restrictions/293-7b610f1a-1b7c-40a6-a0d5-fc198d238cf2) he would “uphold our citizens’ constitutional rights and liberties” and not enforce COVID-19 restrictions put in place by Inslee to slow the spread of the virus.
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> On Thursday, Washington State Hospital Association CEO Cassie Sauer said there are [more people hospitalized with COVID-19](https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/washington-hospitals-capacity-largest-number-covid-patients-ever-vaccine-coronavirus-pandemic/281-cc874790-a5d4-40e1-8953-ea5c49ce5538) in Washington state than at any other time during the pandemic.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1021 "2021-08-24T21:10:08Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I had another one today who will not get vaccinated. They hit me with the “relative in health care” who has seen all of the bad effects

That relative who empties the wastebaskets at East Side General Hospital has seen a lot, let me tell you.

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