# Share your Covidiot stories

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [April 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854 "2020-04-29T22:21:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1322 "2021-10-16T20:53:14Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> One person claimed that the average age of those who died of COVID is older than the average life expectancy. (I have no idea if that’s true.)

It might be true. I expect it is close. [COVID deaths certainly skew higher as people get older.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/)

But I am not sure what argument someone who says that is making. That once a person reaches the average life expectancy (about 79 in the US) we can all stop caring about them? I wonder how the person saying that would feel once they reach 79? Logan’s Run but for senior citizens?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1323 "2021-10-16T20:58:13Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> One person claimed that the average age of those who died of COVID is older than the average life expectancy. (I have no idea if that’s true.)

[As of September, the average age of Californians who died from COVID is 66.](https://calmatters.org/health/coronavirus/2021/09/covid-california-deaths/)

[In February, the average age of people who died of COVID was 72.8 years.](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/02/covid-19-scan-feb-19-2021) This is throughout 81 countries.

Life expectancy in the U.S. in 2019 was 78.8 years.

I’m no mathematician, but I thing 66 and 73 are both less than 79.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1324 "2021-10-16T21:13:47Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > One person claimed that the average age of those who died of COVID is older than the average life expectancy. (I have no idea if that’s true.)
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> It might be true. I expect it is close. [COVID deaths certainly skew higher as people get older.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/)
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> But I am not sure what argument someone who says that is making. That once a person reaches the average life expectancy (about 79 in the US) we can all stop caring about them? I wonder how the person saying that would feel once they reach 79? Logan’s Run but for senior citizens?

Wasn’t that basically the argument advanced by the lieutenant governor in Texas?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1325 "2021-10-16T21:23:50Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And someone else complained that requiring the vaccine would put people on breadlines(presumably those forced to find other employment because they refuse vaccination). Which is ridiculous; most of the people in this department are highly educated, highly compensated professionals. I expect that few of them will have trouble finding someplace else to work, especially in this economy.

Actually, I suspect that many of them would find some difficulty finding new jobs with similar compensation, both because of the usual age-discrimination issues and because most major employers are only too glad to require vaccination to keep their share of the insurance cost down, with the administration’s executive order providing them cover.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1326 "2021-10-17T07:35:34Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> most major employers are only too glad to require vaccination to keep their share of the insurance cost down, with the administration’s executive order providing them cover.

Or maybe it’s because they don’t want walking death dispensers anywhere near themselves and their employees.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1327 "2021-10-18T00:01:24Z")

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> **[A Florida school says vaccinated students must stay home for 30 days after...](https://news.yahoo.com/florida-school-says-students-vaxxed-181722021.html)**
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> School officials said that the quarantine mandate exists because they believe vaccinated students can infect unvaccinated students. That's false.

Lordy, this is totally bizarre. Is there no end to the COVID misinformation out there?

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1328 "2021-10-18T01:46:58Z")

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I assume it’s a private school, so they may have some leeway about denying kids access. But if it’s a school parents had to pay for, I hope they (any sensible parents) withdraw their kids and get their money back.

Also, if you click through and read only as far as this quote:

> - An infectious disease expert who spoke with WSVN characterized that belief as “science fiction.”

You should read further and see that the person being quoted _did_ go on to say, no, not science fiction, just plain fiction. Because, of course, no science is involved.

I was going to quibble, but the full quote took care of it.

I continue to be surprised at the levels of stupidity people can reach, and others go along with.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1329 "2021-10-18T03:55:50Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Lordy, this is totally bizarre. Is there no end to the COVID misinformation out there?

Ah, yes, this is Centner Academy, an expensive private school run by over-the-top rabid anti-vax Covid hoaxers. From an article last April, they also refuse to hire any vaccinated teachers or staffers:

> **[Centner Academy Won't Employ COVID-19 Vaccinated Employees, Citing Debunked...](https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/miami-private-school-centner-academy-covid-vaccinations/)**
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> The owners of a Miami private school want its teachers and employees not to get the COVID-19 vaccine, citing a debunked anti-vaccination theory.

Yeah, _those_ people.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1330 "2021-10-18T21:16:13Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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That’s the same school that banned teachers from getting the vaccine. So this is not, sadly, a surprising attitude.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1331 "2021-10-18T22:20:31Z")

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Regarding the school that requires vaccinated kids to stay home for thirty days post-vaccine administration, what is their requirement for kids who get COVID, or test positive or have an exposure to someone who has it?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1332 "2021-10-18T22:35:23Z")

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They probably require them to come to school sick and won’t let them wear a mask.

I’m sad to report that [New Hampshire Officials Doubled Down on Covidiocy](https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2021-10-13/nh-executive-council-rejects-27-million-in-federal-contracts-related-to-covid-vaccination-efforts)

You know it’s bad when the governor, previously called out as an idiot for banning vaccine mandates at public universities etc thinks _these_ people are idiots.

> In a statement issued after the vote, Sununu said the “vote showed a reckless disregard for the lives we are losing while they turn away the tools our state needs to fight and win this battle against COVID.”
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> Speaking to reporters later in the day, Sununu said he pushed fellow-Republican councilors to support the contracts as hard as he could, but described the party-line vote against the money as driven by disinformation.
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> “At the end of the day, there was no rational, logical reason to say ‘no’ to these contracts,” Sununu said. "Every argument that the council attempted to bring up was shot down immediately.”

And it turns out we have at least 170 ordinary citizens hoping to show their asses too, yay.

> About 170 protestors filled the public section of the room. They made their opinions known early on in the meeting when federal funding for case management for refugees 60 years and older was discussed. Some protestors shouted they did not want refugees in New Hampshire.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1333 "2021-10-19T01:44:37Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > > [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> > > most major employers are only too glad to require vaccination to keep their share of the insurance cost down, with the administration’s executive order providing them cover.
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> > Or maybe it’s because they don’t want walking death dispensers anywhere near themselves and their employees.
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> That’s the same school that banned teachers from getting the vaccine. So this is not, sadly, a surprising attitude.

I was responding to what **Steve\_MB** posted before the Miami school thing came up. I was definitely not talking about that school.

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**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1334 "2021-10-19T11:39:19Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> And it turns out we have at least 170 ordinary citizens hoping to show their asses too, yay.

Please tell me that you meant: “they’re”.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1335 "2021-10-19T11:46:13Z")

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Of course not. That wouldn’t make sense grammatically.

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1336 "2021-10-19T12:51:45Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> I’m sad to report that [New Hampshire Officials Doubled Down on Covidiocy](https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2021-10-13/nh-executive-council-rejects-27-million-in-federal-contracts-related-to-covid-vaccination-efforts)
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> You know it’s bad when the governor, previously called out as an idiot for banning vaccine mandates at public universities etc thinks _these_ people are idiots.

What they actually did was reject federal money to create certain vaccine-related state employment positions. While they probably did it for the wrong reasons, I have to say I’m skeptical that spending $17 Million to create more bureaucracy was really going to lead to greater COVID vaccination in the state. As has been pointed out many times, anybody who wants a vaccine can already get one, and anybody left is unlikely to be convinced by any efforts or information coming from the government.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1337 "2021-10-19T13:04:12Z")

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I will let my company know we can stop advertising and promotion now that 99% of people in our market are aware of our product, pricing and service. The stockholders are going to be chuffed!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1338 "2021-10-19T14:31:00Z")

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Really, all the information they need will come from their friends on facebook, who post anti-vax memes that they saw somewhere, created by the Russian disinformation campaign. It’s all good.

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1339 "2021-10-19T14:43:15Z")

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Exactly. Having yet another government agency isn’t going to fix that.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1340 "2021-10-19T14:47:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Unvaccinated UCLA anesthesiologist proudly records himself being kicked out of his work  
> [UCLA Doctor Christopher B. Rake Gets the Boot for Refusing to Get COVID-19 Vaccine](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ucla-doctor-christopher-b-rake-gets-the-boot-for-refusing-to-get-covid-19-vaccine)

This loon subsequently was “escorted off campus” after re-entering his workplace.

He’s also been recorded on video revving up a crowd with a QAnon chant at an antivax rally.

> <https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1432134736260915204>

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1341 "2021-10-19T14:47:01Z")

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Just leave it to Facebook. Everything will be alright. They have our best interests at heart, and will surely do the right thing. There is no place for government to provide correct information to the public about a public health crisis.

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