# Share your Covidiot stories **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [April 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854 "2020-04-29T22:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1543 "2021-12-14T14:19:30Z")
That’s a shockingly low number. Surely there must be more than 27 members of the Air Force who are refusing. Is this just a first pass at discharges? ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1544 "2021-12-14T14:22:30Z")
To answer my own question: > All the members were in their first enlistments and had served less than six years, so their requests for vaccine exemptions did not go to a board > The Air Force has 7,365 unvaccinated service members; many of those cases are pending religious exemption requests. So yeah, that’s far from the full number. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1545 "2021-12-15T00:28:17Z")
Although given that the US Air Force has over 329,000 active duty airmen, even the 7365-unvaccinated number is hearteningly low. ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1546 "2021-12-15T12:12:36Z")
Spotted today on the THISTV network, scheduled for 8:00 AM broadcast: _STOP BRAIN FOG_ _Get whole-brain support with NeuroQ! NeuroQ is formulated to help maintain healthy brain function, clear thinking, and memory._ At least the blurb does not mention COVID. But it won’t take much for someone to make the connection for a new miracle cure… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1547 "2021-12-15T14:32:50Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Even on the lunatic fringe of anti-vaxxery, there is an additional more-lunatic fringe who seem to truly believe that the vaccine is an active effort to kill Americans, and who see themselves as noble warriors fighting against that. I could certainly see some of them taking it further than sabotaging a lock. And they have. The latest, from Germany: [https://www.reuters.com/world/german-police-conduct-raids-saxony-over-anti-vaxxer-murder-plot-2021-12-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/german-police-conduct-raids-saxony-over-anti-vaxxer-murder-plot-2021-12-15/) As I mentioned in a previous thread, I hope Dr. Fauci’s security detail is on the ball. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1548 "2021-12-15T15:06:32Z")
Oof, that’s ugly. Saxony certainly doesn’t surprise me, though. The least-vaccinated state in Germany, home of “different-thinker” protests and the alt-right AfD. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1549 "2021-12-22T22:26:33Z")
Unvaccinated, wife with stage 4 colon cancer. > **[Michigan diner owner who defied state shutdown dies of COVID-19](https://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/2021/12/michigan-diner-owner-who-defied-state-shutdown-dies-of-covid-19.html)** > > John Parney Sr. died Dec. 14. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1550 "2021-12-22T22:46:53Z")
Middle son. Lives in Las Vegas, vaxxed but not boosted. Drove to the Chiefs/Chargers game and spent the weekend in LA - has some form of Covid, he and his fiance had to cancel plans to spend Xmas with her parents. Sick, but not to the extent he can’t complain about it. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1551 "2021-12-23T06:16:38Z")
The New South Wales state government recently relaxed virtually all anti-Covid restrictions, saying they’d rely on something called “personal responsibility” to keep it under control. This despite numbers creeping up anyway, and of course the arrival of omicron. Today - shockingly - they’ve had to reintroduce mandatory mask use indoors, density limits in public venues (although apparently not in politicians’ heads) and check-in via QR codes to all venues, after the case numbers have been exploding, including nearly doubling between yesterday and today. > **[COVID-19 data centre: Coronavirus by the numbers](https://www.smh.com.au/national/covid-19-data-centre-coronavirus-by-the-numbers-20200401-p54g4w.html)** > > The latest data on the coronavirus pandemic in your local area, across Australia and around the world. Hospital admissions have started rising too; the only consolation is ICU numbers are steady - so far. All RAT kits have sold out, 1,500 medical personnel are off sick (many with Covid), and there are hours-long queues at all testing centres - except those that have been closed due to the imminence of Xmas. A full-on fustercluck. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1552 "2021-12-24T06:47:29Z")
I’m not quite sure where to put this, but I guess this thread will do. Candice Owens, who is certainly a Covidiot, recently interviewed Trump. She tried to link the increased prevalence of vaccines to the increased number of deaths this year compared to last year. Trump, to his credit, pushed back rather hard. Here’s a video clip. [https://twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1473743177806974977?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1473743177806974977|twgr^|twcon^s1\_&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblavity.com%2Fdonald-trump-changes-his-tune-on-vaccines-and-makes-candace-owens-look-awfully-crazy-in-interview](https://twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1473743177806974977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1473743177806974977%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblavity.com%2Fdonald-trump-changes-his-tune-on-vaccines-and-makes-candace-owens-look-awfully-crazy-in-interview) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1553 "2021-12-24T07:40:15Z")
Yeah, there are not many issues on which I would argue that idiots need to be paying more attention to the pronouncements of Donald Trump, but the safety and efficacy of COVID vaccines is definitely one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1554 "2021-12-24T07:52:03Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > Trump, to his credit, pushed back rather hard. Gary Abernathy has an op-ed in WaPo with an amusing headline about this: # [Trump touts boosters. Biden credits Trump. Trump appreciates Biden. Oh my.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/23/trump-touts-boosters-biden-credits-trump-trump-appreciates-biden-oh-my/) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/23/trump-touts-boosters-biden-credits-trump-trump-appreciates-biden-oh-my/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/23/trump-touts-boosters-biden-credits-trump-trump-appreciates-biden-oh-my/) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1555 "2021-12-25T14:22:13Z")
The author of this piece makes a point I made in another thread. Trump is NOT a leader. Trump does not have leadership skills. Trump “leads” from behind - he tells his audience what they want to hear. But he , has no influence to wield - he’s not the team captain developing the strategy, he’s the stupid mascot that works the crowd into a frenzy. That’s why his administration’s Covid response was doomed. Even if Trump had wanted to take the virus seriously by promoting masks and lockdowns - he would never have convinced his base. They would’ve turned on him, and he knows it. That’s why he can’t say and do anything socially responsible, ever….it would expose his “leadership” as a fraud. His base would turn on him. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1556 "2021-12-25T17:40:49Z")
Another way to put it that I read recently: Trump supporters don’t like him because they agree with his ideas. They support him because they think Trump agrees with _them_. And when they discover he doesn’t, it causes cognitive dissonance. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1557 "2021-12-26T03:58:33Z")
> **[Right-Wing Podcaster Reportedly On Ventilator For COVID After Attending Rally](https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-vax-podcaster-reportedly-ventilator-030107384.html)** > > Doug Kuzma posed with supplies of ivermectin, which the FDA and CDC have warned against using to treat COVID-19. Other people sick with Covid say it’s not Covid. They were somehow poisoned with anthrax. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1558 "2021-12-26T15:17:52Z")
That article links to another one describing RFK Jr’s attempt to get Jake Tapper of CNN to debate him about vaccine mandates. > **[Jake Tapper Slams RFK Jr's Offer Of A Vaccine Mandate Debate: 'Truly...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jake-tapper-robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccine-mandate_n_61c35ef5e4b0c7d8b897d649)** > > The CNN anchor said he didn't want to lend credence to "a conspiracy theorist" whose views are "so false, unhinged, and dangerous to public health." It’s a typical antivaxer ploy.\* Try to engage a well-known, rational person (especially a public health/vaccine expert) in a forum that’ll make it look like you have equal standing, perform a Gish Gallop (vomit a deluge of dubious studies and factoids that your opponent can’t possibly all respond to in a limited time, if he/she has even heard of them, and play for “gotcha” moments you can excerpt for videos. Win! Antivaxers know how bad they look when their bullshit is calmly refuted point by point in print and online publications. \*earlier this year RFK Jr. tried to get N.Y. state senator Brad Hoylman (who’d called on Twitter to suspend RFK Jr.'s account) to debate him. It was a no go. “(Kennedy’s response included) bizarrely quoting Game of Thrones author George R.R. Martin, challenging Hoylman to a Zoom debate on science, and peddling more debunked conspiracy theories about vaccination.” Quoting Hoylman: “Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s rantings and citations of debunked pseudoscience add nothing to our national discourse. We won’t take the bait - and we are not going to give him a platform to continue to spread medical disinformation through a debate." > **[Sen. Hoylman Declines RFK, Jr. Debate Challenge, Refuses to Spread Vaccine...](https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/brad-hoylman/sen-hoylman-declines-rfk-jr-debate-challenge-refuses-spread)** > > Two weeks ago, New York State Senator Brad Hoylman (D/WF-Manhattan), Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called on Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey in a letter to permanently suspend Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Twitter account and the organization he founded... ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1559 "2021-12-26T15:46:55Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Even if Trump had wanted to take the virus seriously by promoting masks and lockdowns - he would never have convinced his base. Have to disagree here. If Trump hadn’t been worried about how admitting Covid would affect his ratings, he could have gotten his base into masks. And if he said “look at this great vaccine that I got made. It’s going into my as you watch.”, most of the Magas would have done the same. His problem is that he let vaccine opposition become a tenet of the base faith, and even they have a cognitive dissonance limit (I’m somewhat surprised to find that out, to be honest). ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1560 "2021-12-26T16:07:07Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > > Even if Trump had wanted to take the virus seriously by promoting masks and lockdowns - he would never have convinced his base. > > Have to disagree here. If Trump hadn’t been worried about how admitting Covid would affect his ratings, he could have gotten his base into masks. That is a bit of a circular disagreement, really. Trump was worried about how it would affect his ratings because he _knew_ “the base” would _not_ receive it well… and was not prepared or not willing to deal with that (after all, what was he gonna do to bring them around, insult them on Twitter?) so he did not bother. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1561 "2021-12-27T00:49:43Z")
Well, I think Trump tried to have it both ways. He wanted credit for the vaccine, and he also made the vaccine makers out to be his enemies because the vaccines were announced after the election. I think the latter is what stuck. If he’d continued to trumpet how the vaccine would solve everything, and he was responsible for it, it would have been interesting to see what developed. Particularly as democrats were suspicious of a rushed vaccine from the Trump administration. Would the roles have been, at least temporarily, reversed? Would there be more vaccine uptake now overall? (I think probably.) ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1562 "2021-12-27T01:46:00Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > saying they’d rely on something called “personal responsibility” to keep it under control. This despite numbers creeping up anyway, and of course the arrival of omicron We hear crap like that in Canada (choose a province). And it’s usually preceded by something like “I/we trust that Canadians/Quebecers/Manitobans/whoever can be trusted to act responsibly…” even though they consistently and continuously display otherwise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854.md?page=79)