# Shayna = Bitch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828 "2003-02-05T00:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/81 "2003-02-06T04:45:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Cisco said: > …but this thread makes no less than three negative comments he has made about me. He just doesn’t like me, I can’t help it, so fuck it. Same with unclebill. Your first “cite” is a post I made about your thread idea. Thread title: “If you don’t like someone’s rant fuck off!” My post, in full: \*Hmm … did I miss the memo? “Attention all SDMB users: if you don’t like someone’s pit thread, please do not comment in it.” ::checks email and ATMB:: Nope, nothing to that effect. You’re allowed to rant in the Pit. We’re allowed to tell you your rant sucks. If you don’t want people commenting on your thread, get a journal.\* Italicized to clearly separate it from this post. This was not a negative comment I made about you. I was implying that your rant sucked. Does that mean you suck? No. Our second “cite” is from the same thread, a mere six posts later: \*Read the OP. Twice. I’ve seen this rant before and it holds just as much water as the other one(s). Someone needs to bring a mop in soon.\* Again, I was commenting on **the rant** , not **the person behind the rant**. You will please note, again, that I said nothing specifically about you as a person. Didn’t insult your momma or tell you your dick was too small for mice or invite you to scoop the shit out from between your ears. I said your rant sucked. Your third “cite” was my imitation of a southern preacher, which many took as it was meant: amusement. It was, again, a comment **about your rant**. And, more in general, it was about all sucky rants. Here’s something you might not have grasped before: a comment saying “Your rant sucks, dude” does not inherently, nor even necessarily indirectly, mean that you are invalidated somehow as a person. A comment, however, in the vein of “at least I didn’t act like a ripe bloody fucking cunt” is most likely meant as a personal attack. See the difference? Post vs. Poster. **One post** vs. an individual poster. It’s similar to **Jodi** ’s GD philosophy: attack the post/argument, not the poster. Now, however, you’re saying something different. “so when you made negative comments I took note of them.” The cautious reader will notice the lack of “about me” at the end, thus qualifying my “dude, your rant sucked” comments. _Ex post facto_, however (I think that’s the term). So in short, I’m still waiting for those three negative comments I’ve made about you prior to my second post in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/82 "2003-02-06T04:49:54Z")
That’s correct, **Fred** , by my counting as well. However, note the key difference in the phrase you used (“at me” vs. “about me”), the former of which is what **Cisco** originally said and the latter of which he’s now changed to without indication as to reason. Forgot to mention, in addition, that I was wondering, **Cisco** , if you still had your “People Who are Mean to Me on the Board” spreadsheet open so you could pull out the URLs that prove **UncleBill** hates you. Oh, and your rant sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/83 "2003-02-06T04:54:18Z")
**Cisco** , dude, the more you post, the more you come across as insane. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/84 "2003-02-06T05:03:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fred \* > \*\*I’m no math wizard, but including those 3 examples (all of which were from the same, relatively tame exchange) mean “this thread makes no less than **four** times where iampunha has negatively commented at (you)?” \*\* Sorry, I didn’t have my “People who hate me on this board” spreadsheet open at the time :rolleyes:. So pick two. I _do_ apologize for having a little bit of a memory though, obviously that’s not allowed by the mighty mighty punha. And I honestly _don’t_ know what I was thinking when I said that about UncleBill. Maybe he has said negative things about me in the past but I can’t find anything and it’s not where I thought it was, so I apoligize [and salute] UncleBill, Sir. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/85 "2003-02-06T05:04:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\ ***Cisco** , dude, the more you post, the more you come across as insane. \*\* You didn’t like my poem? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/86 "2003-02-06T05:04:58Z")
While I’m nitpicking, don’t you think it’s a little cheating to pick 2 shots from the same exchange? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/87 "2003-02-06T05:21:42Z")
More nitpicking, **Fred** , as all three came from the same thread. And **Cisco** , I just think it’s really fucking pathetic that you apparently either remembered those three specific posts or had them tucked away somewhere in case you needed to say “Yeah, he’s a big old meany head! WAAAAAAH!” and link to them. Still waiting for the three negative comments I’ve made about you prior to my second post in this thread… ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/88 "2003-02-06T05:51:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\*And **Cisco** , I just think it’s really fucking pathetic that you apparently either remembered those three specific posts \*\* It was barely 5 weeks ago asshole, I feel sorry for you if you can’t remember that far back. And how is that any more pathetic than you continuing to post in this thread that had nothing to do with you? Everyone else called me an asshole and left, but nooooo, big pun has to stay around and smear shit in my face. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/89 "2003-02-06T06:00:53Z")
Well, no, I don’t generally remember every post in a thread I start. It became about me, at least in part, where you said “this makes no less than three times where iampunha has said a negative comment about me.” I pursued that. Apparently I have some semblance of an ability to defend myself, whereas you just change what you said and hope nobody notices. Oops… Still waiting for those three posts prior to my second post in this thread where I’ve insulted you. And, y’know, any sort of rebuttal you have against my comments on your “cites”. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/90 "2003-02-06T07:29:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Shayna** _ > > Like that **Esprix**. Now _there’s_ a boy in need of a good, hard spanking. [sub](luv you too, hon!)[/sub] Of course when _he_ called me a bitch, I stomped him like a bug and ended up with 2 marriage proposals out of it, so who knows which approach is best. 😉 Bah! I won that fight! (Didn’t I?) Esprix [sub]I’m SURE I did![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/91 "2003-02-06T07:36:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Cisco** _ > > Ohhh Shayna, the light of my life > You lift me up, from the depths of strife > Warm me up inside > When I’m feeling sick > Make me want to steer away > from being a self righteous prick > Ohh Shayna, I see it in your eyes > the light, the love > that makes me want to > **apologize** Just because you bold the word “apologize” doesn’t make it sincere. That has to be the smarmiest, snarkiest, most insincere thing I’ve ever seen anyone post, especially considering everything else going on in this thread in context. I for one would give you _oodles_ of credit if you would say, “ **Shayna** , I’m sorry,” and then ask the mods to close this thread. Your call. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/92 "2003-02-06T12:06:00Z")
Oh come on, Esprix, something can be sincere without being 100% stone-faced serious. I wasn’t trying to be smarmy or snarky, I thought it was kinda funny. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/93 "2003-02-06T12:10:08Z")
Here’s a rebuttal pun: you’re acting like a jerk in **this** thread. And it doesn’t matter how bad of a jerk anyone thinks I’m being, you’ve “stooped to my level” (imo below it.) ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/94 "2003-02-06T13:32:28Z")
**Cisco** , I’ll second **Esprix** ’s sentiment. Just directly say “I’m sorry, **Shayna** ” and move on. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/95 "2003-02-06T13:41:33Z")
Well, this thread certainly explains all the warm weather we’ve had around here for the past couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/96 "2003-02-06T13:50:13Z")
This is just another example of people not understanding your sense of humor, right, **Cisco**? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/97 "2003-02-06T13:55:19Z")
Hmmm… from reading the original thread, **Shayna** = completely right and not a bitch at all. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/98 "2003-02-06T14:42:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\*Jesus. Speak English, would ya? \*\* Dixie Deans is the British equivalent of Ron Jeremy. “Goalposting” is North Dublin slang for making whoopee, and a “jumper” is another name for a condom. Does that help? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/99 "2003-02-06T15:07:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*And **Michael Ellis** , can we have a link to whatever it is you’re talking about? Much obliged. 😃 > > Esprix \*\* [Here ya go!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150620) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/100 "2003-02-06T16:13:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dooku \* > \*\*Ouch. That’s the quote of the year so far. \*\* Maybe the decade. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828.md?page=6)