# Shayna = Bitch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828 "2003-02-05T00:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/101 "2003-02-06T17:37:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cisco \* > > … something can be sincere without being 100% stone-faced serious. I wasn’t trying to be smarmy or snarky, I thought it was kinda funny. Personally, if people are laughing while they’re apologizing to me, I’m going to think they’re being insincere. YMMV. But if you meant it, would there be any harm in saying, “ **Shayna** , I’m sorry,” and not saying anything further except to ask the mods to close this thread? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/102 "2003-02-06T17:38:22Z")
**Venoma** , hon, nobody here has said I’m perfect, and certainly not everyone here at SD even likes me. I’m sorry you, too, were offended my my comments in that year-old debate. However, please refrain from attributing statements, or even sentiments, to me that are simply untrue. I hardly characterized you as “the most inhumane person possible”. I may have extremely hard-held beliefs about allowing domesticated house pets to roam wild outside, but I hold out the kind of contempt you attribute to me for truly heinous crimes, like rape, torture, murder and child molestation and abuse. And really, that entire thread was little more than both sides flinging accusations of cruelty back and forth (I got as good as I gave!), so you were hardly singled out. If you recall, I didn’t even let **Coldfire** off the hook (Hi Coldie! When are _you_ coming back for a visit?!), and _he_ was the best man at my wedding! So yeah, I guess if you think having strong opinions and stating them thusly makes me a bitch, then that’s your prerogative. I’m sorry you were so hurt that you’ve been holding a grudge all this time. But the issue in _this_ thread is whether I was a bitch in the thread linked in the OP and whether I deserved to be Pitted for that particular post. I think the concesus is no. **elelle** , thanks, and it’s nice to see you around again! **Esprix** , I think we both won that fight – look where we’ve come since then! Looking forward to seeing you at the 'fest in March! To everyone else, I think we’ve beat this horse beyond death and into glue. I honestly don’t need a formal apology from **Cisco** to know that he feels badly about starting this thread. Some day he’d be wise to learn how to hold his hat in his hand and extend regrets, but we aren’t going to bully him into it in this thread. Fight on if you’d like, but it’s really just wasting bandwidth at this point, don’tcha think? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/103 "2003-02-07T03:19:05Z")
Shayna, my hat’s off to you. Well, I don’t have a hat, but you get my point. And I agree. R.I.P. Mr. Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/104 "2003-02-07T05:02:24Z")
You know, Cisco, I am sort of confused here. I asked for tolerance and understanding, and this was your response. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2835835#post2835835](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2835835#post2835835) Now, YOU appear to be asking for tolerance and understanding. I am honestly perplexed. And BTW, **Shayna** is one of my best friends. She isn’t perfect, but then neither am I. Neither are you. [sub]Is ANYONE? NO. [/sub] She has a temper, sure. As do we all. She has her “hot buttons”…as do we all. BUT…she is a wonderful, loving and kind woman who…if you needed it and she HAD it, would give you the shirt off her back. I have never had a more loving friend. And part of that is that she is always HONEST with me…if she thinks I am being a jerk or misguided, she tells me so. With LOVE, but still…honestly. [sub]She usually has “Cites” to prove her point, too. Which would be particularly annoying, I am sure, when she is right.[/sub] I can’t say I am always all that happy to hear it when she voices her opinion…but I DO know that she is never dishonest, so I DO think seriously about whatever she has to say. And…I DO have to admit that in the long run, she is almost NEVER wrong. I LOVE that woman. I don’t think she is perfect. I don’t think she is infallible. I love her for who she is, and in closing I would like to say… Well, _blifimister_…I can’t think of anything witty to say. BLAST! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/105 "2003-02-07T07:00:06Z")
HOLY FUCKING SHIT…to see: **Shayna = Bitch** sure as fuck means someone named **Cisco** niether: #1. Knows her #2. Read what she said #3. Has a clue about what is appropriate to get on someone’s case. #4. Understands that PEOPLE can’t see through veiled jokes when it’s written on the INTERNET. Dude, lighten up. Shayna is one of the sweetest and kindest people I know on the 'net. I have had the chance to talk to her on many occasions, on the phone, and she has a heart of gold. If she were upset with what you initially wrote, you would know it, she simply stated where your “joking” was wrong, stupid or out and out misinformed. Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/106 "2003-02-07T07:05:16Z")
I think the title is hilarious, though. The economy of phrasing is quite commendable. **Cisco** =wrong. See how well that works? ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/107 "2003-02-07T07:12:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cisco \* > Jesus Christ can you get your fucking self righteous head out of your ass for a minute and lighten up? > > Maybe I was wrong and maybe I wasn’t - we’ll never know without a time machine - **but at least I wasn’t a ripe bloody fucking cunt about it.** You had no reason to talk to me like that, especially not in that forum. Oh and I forgot, if there was a name that’s equivalent to the word **cunt** for apparently you being a man, I would use it here. That was completely uncalled for. Utterly and completely out there man. I used to think you were kinda cool, a person who thought for himself with normal human needs. This “respect” went right out the door for this set off my okay meter to 100. I usually have it set at ten and it goes higher based on the offense. You sir (assuming you are a man) have lost any respect from me for that comment with that word. Holy shit, I have heard more tame comments for people who actually have said things hurtful that actually injure their emotions. **Shayna** didn’t hit that meter at all. Stern, yes but not worthy of being called that. **Cisco** get a clue and check in with your psychiatrist for some medication adjustments. Fuck dude that was beyond harsh, that’s not even a word I use to describe the one woman who really, really hurt me, my worst enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/108 "2003-02-09T04:35:15Z")
**Cisco** , Whatever it was I was pissed off about, I don’t remember it. Rather than remind me of it, though, just accept my offer of forgiveness, and let’s just move along. It certainly wasn’t enough for me to hold a grudge, or you to feel uncomfortable about for any real length of time. Tris ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/109 "2003-02-10T02:08:30Z")
I was over the top on this one. Shayna, I’m sorry. Mods, please close this. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/110 "2003-02-10T07:33:00Z")
Huzzah! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/111 "2003-02-10T08:18:24Z")
Well done **Cisco**. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828/112 "2003-02-10T08:21:29Z")
Hmm, haven’t mods countlessly said that if you want a thread closed to e-mail them rather than to post it in the thread? 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-bitch/152828.md?page=5)