# Shayna is an intellectual coward

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556 "2008-04-01T17:52:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/61 "2008-04-01T23:20:00Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Damn, that boy can _type!_  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, when he’s talking about how great he is and how worthless everyone else is, the words just flow.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/62 "2008-04-01T23:38:49Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> In fact, as I have said in the past I would have to seriously look at myself in the mirror and wonder if I had degenerated as a person if I were to find myself being offered the support of the majority of this forum.

And you think that it’s your _conservatism_ that makes you a pariah on these boards? **Martin** , the reason no one here likes you isn’t because of your politics. No one here like you because you’re a douche.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/63 "2008-04-01T23:49:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
And you think that it’s your _conservatism_ that makes you a pariah on these boards? **Martin** , the reason no one here likes you isn’t because of your politics. No one here like you because you’re a douche.  
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Actually, I don’t like him because of the whole saying-the-rosary-cured-me-of-teh-ghey thing. Or, more accurately, that he thinks it’ll work for other people.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/64 "2008-04-01T23:51:51Z")

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[QUOTE=black rabbit]  
Actually, I don’t like him because of the whole saying-the-rosary-cured-me-of-teh-ghey thing. Or, more accurately, that he thinks it’ll work for other people.  
[/QUOTE]

Whoa-when was THAT?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/65 "2008-04-01T23:59:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Martin Hyde]  
For that alone the powers that be should thank me for providing the public service of keeping this message board from becoming more of a boring liberal circle-jerk than it already is.  
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I am literally crying with laughter. It is honestly difficult to type this.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/66 "2008-04-02T00:04:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Whoa-when was THAT?  
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2004/2005-ish.

I’m gonna go flog the hamsters.

Feel free to interpret that any way you want.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/67 "2008-04-02T00:11:46Z")

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You might be thinking of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=379546), but if so, he doesn’t quite say what you remember.

While the thread definitely shows that his aggressively stupid attitude goes back pretty much to the beginning, he doesn’t say that fondling his magic beads cured him of cocksmokery.

Unless, of course, you had a different thread in mind, evidence for which I wait in great anticipation.

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/68 "2008-04-02T00:38:50Z")

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So basically, **Martin Hyde** is actually Dick “So?” Cheney.

Right. Glad we could clear that up.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/69 "2008-04-02T01:03:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]

Unless, of course, you had a different thread in mind, evidence for which I wait in great anticipation.  
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I had [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6979580&postcount=62) in mind.

[QUOTE=Martin Hyde]  
I don’t consider myself “homosexual” but for many years earlier in my life I had lots of homosexual urges and fantasies. And I even came close to acting on them. However I did not. I also have to say that I had trouble for a long time finding the concept of heterosexual sex particularly appealing to me, but I was able to overcome those qualms. And I think there are many people out there just like me who are able to deny their baser instincts in order to do what is right.  
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So I was right about the wieners, but wrong about the magic beads and candles. And I missed the time frame by nine days. My bad.

When I first read that, I realized how much he must hate himself.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/70 "2008-04-02T01:12:34Z")

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:eek: :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/71 "2008-04-02T01:15:49Z")

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Well, that does explain the douchbaggery.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/72 "2008-04-02T01:24:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I would basically have to rehash a lot of what I had already said to even participate in that GD thread.
> 
> Secondly, this discussion started in the raucous pulpit that is the pit. I think “moving it up” to GD is a bad idea. I don’t want to go into GD with an attitude and frame of reference from a pit thread, I think it is bad posting practice.

You wanted to bring a debate to the McCain pitting by bringing Obama into the mix, but now when there’s an actual GD thread on the very things you brought up, you refuse to go there and be a part of the debate? You’re the fucking coward here. You can’t spin your way out of that. Your mamma raised a fucking coward. You. You’re the coward that refuses to enter the intelligent debate surrounding the very issues you brought up in the Pit. You threadshitted; you admitted you threadshitted; but when the challenge to defend your stance in a civilized debate thread is presented to you, you vomit out some bullshit excuses as to why you wont’ go there. Again, you are the fucking coward, coward.

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> This is going exactly the way I hoped it would. You don’t post here as long as I do without realizing this place is overrun with leftist, liberal lunatics. I’ve not had the support of this forum in a single pitting or thread since day one of posting here, nor do I expect or ask for it.

Wow, you’re a coward _and_ insane.

> [@](#):
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> It’s also notable that in general, America has aligned with my views, not with the views of this message board.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/73 "2008-04-02T01:41:06Z")

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[QUOTE=black rabbit]  
I had [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6979580&postcount=62) in mind.

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Wow, that’s really sad. Seriously. I hope he comes to terms with himself.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/74 "2008-04-02T02:40:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by Martin Hyde  
> I don’t consider myself “homosexual” but for many years earlier in my life I had lots of homosexual urges and fantasies. And I even came close to acting on them. However I did not. I also have to say that I had trouble for a long time finding the concept of heterosexual sex particularly appealing to me, but I was able to overcome those qualms. And I think there are many people out there just like me who are able to deny their baser instincts in order to do what is right.

Wow. Just wow.

I get it now. Obama is keeping a secret, just like you’re keeping a secret.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/75 "2008-04-02T03:13:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Martin Hyde]  
People need to recognize political mouthpieces for what they are.  
[/QUOTE]

Really? REALLY? How did you manage to type this without being completely overwhelmed with embarrassment and an urge to immediately apologize?

> [@Martin Hyde](#):
>
> The strength of my arguments typically prevail over the idiocy of the left,

What color is the sky in your world?

> [@](#):
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> and just because I never receive recognition for that from the hordes of lefties on this forum, doesn’t mean I don’t take my own satisfaction in routinely dismissing and tearing apart the leftist/liberal/Democrat bullshit that overwhelms this message board.

Wow. You’d think we’d all recognize your superiority. Actually. We do, y’know. We have secret meetings about it. We’re all horribly jealous. Try as we might, we just can’t overcome your brilliance.  
**Martin Hyde** , legend in his own mind.

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**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/76 "2008-04-02T03:22:08Z")

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I think someone needs to change the thread title…

I’m sure someone can stop by and propose a better title than I can…

But the original intent was annihilated before **Martin Hyde** even posted his OP.

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**Author:** ![ShermanAter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ShermanAter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShermanAter)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/77 "2008-04-02T03:36:33Z")

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I pity you Martin.

After reading many of your historic posts I thought I had you figured out.  
It would be so easy to jump on the bandwagon and dismiss you as just another ignorant, pseudo intellectual, brain dead, neo conservative, fucknugget, but after reading this post of yours:

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## “I don’t consider myself “homosexual” but for many years earlier in my life I had lots of homosexual urges and fantasies. And I even came close to acting on them. However I did not. I also have to say that I had trouble for a long time finding the concept of heterosexual sex particularly appealing to me, but I was able to overcome those qualms. And I think there are many people out there just like me who are able to deny their baser instincts in order to do what is right.”

I realize that you must lead an even more miserable existence than I could ever imagine.

I truly hope that one day you will decide to follow your base instincts and try to live a happy life, out of the closet.

Good luck

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/78 "2008-04-02T05:45:11Z")

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[QUOTE=black rabbit]  
I had [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6979580&postcount=62) in mind.  
[/QUOTE]  
Thank you. Oh, dear Lord, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/79 "2008-04-02T06:20:57Z")

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Hopefully some day Martin Hyde will be liberated and transform back into Martin Jekyll.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shayna-is-an-intellectual-coward/443556/80 "2008-04-02T06:40:16Z")

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Wow. I had no feelings towards Martin Hyde either way but after this thread I kind of feel sorry for him in that “What a miserable jerk” kind of way.

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