# She/He Stole The Movie

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 8, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952 "2010-07-08T12:57:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/81 "2010-07-09T22:23:22Z")

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> [@Rrose\_Selavy](#):
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> And Huey, Louey & Dewey the three drones from Silent Running

And The Bomb in _Dark Star_!

Also, Graham Greene stole _Thunderheart_ and Dame Judith Anderson’s Mrs. Danvers was the the most memorable character in _Rebecca_. (Gee, I wonder if those two movies have ever been mentioned in the same sentence before.)

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**Author:** ![Rrose\_Selavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rrose\_Selavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rrose_Selavy)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/82 "2010-07-09T23:00:50Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Steve Martin in _Little Shop of Horrors_

“Wait! I’m not numb!”

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/83 "2010-07-09T23:11:23Z")

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John Gielgud as the butler in _Arthur_, the Dudley Moore/Liza Minnelli comedy.

Arthur (Moore), drunkenly: Hobson, I’m going to take a bath.  
Hobson, (dry as a bone): I’ll alert the media.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/84 "2010-07-10T00:21:52Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> John Gielgud as the butler in _Arthur_, the Dudley Moore/Liza Minnelli comedy.
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> Arthur (Moore), drunkenly: Hobson, I’m going to take a bath.  
> Hobson, (dry as a bone): I’ll alert the media.

I liked this line even better, spoken to Arthur’s one-night sleepover girl:

“I eagerly anticipate your next syllable!”

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**Author:** ![orangeskies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a5b964/32.png) [@orangeskies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orangeskies)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/85 "2010-07-10T00:44:28Z")

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Angelina Jolie in Girl, Interrupted

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/86 "2010-07-10T01:26:50Z")

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Evanna Lynch as Luna Lovegood in Harry Potter and the Order Of The Phoenix.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/87 "2010-07-10T01:41:22Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> I don’t remember it that way. Depp [was] seen as a character actor.  
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> Remember that […] Knightley was also a hot new thing thanks to “Bend it Like Beckham.” […] both Bloom and Knightley seemed to be one step away from A-list stardom.

I don’t remember it that way at all. I also remember _Bend It Like Beckham_ being at best a marginal cult hit that critics loved. On the level of _Chocolat_, as an example.

I clearly remember reading the EW review for (or article in anticipation of) the first PotC movie. They railed against the sexist bias in Hollywood specifically because of Keira Knightley. Why, they asked, does Hollywood always look for name male actors in their big franchises, and then always cast disposable no-name starlets with no experience alongside them? They then went on to list a bunch of established female stars they wish had been given a chance instead of what’s-her-name from that soccer movie.

This was evidence, so they said, of how established women have a bias against them because Hollywood always prefers a younger nobody to an older star.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/88 "2010-07-10T01:47:25Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Phillip Seymour Hoffman, in Twister. Though it still sucked. Pullman was horrendous, as always.

Pullman?

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**Author:** ![Reno\_Nevada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/89 "2010-07-10T02:03:39Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Steve Martin in _Little Shop of Horrors_

Jack Nicholson also stole _Little Shop of Horrors_, showing that he could make it in movies.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/90 "2010-07-10T04:51:05Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I watched some terrible direct-to-video movie about wine growing in California - they could have just cut it down to the 20 minutes or so Rickman was on screen and saved the few who actually watched it some pain.

**Bottleshock** BTY Alan Rickman will be in Florence,Italy 15 July for a wine tasting and screening of the film.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/91 "2010-07-10T05:07:03Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> **Bottleshock** BTY Alan Rickman will be in Florence,Italy 15 July for a wine tasting and screening of the film.

Missed the edit meant BTW.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/92 "2010-07-10T05:22:12Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Yes. His gravitas and quiet dignity were perfectly accentuated by the haunting “Torgo’s Theme.”

No actor would have to steal that film. It was more the type of film where one leaves after a day’s shooting and discovered it stuck to the bottom of a shoe.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/93 "2010-07-10T06:11:33Z")

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> [@ministryman](#):
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> **Marisa Tomei** in _My Cousin Vinny_, why is probably why she got best supporting actress.

My vote as well.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/94 "2010-07-10T06:12:36Z")

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it looked to me that Mikey Rourke as Marv stole “Sin City”. It was an ensemble piece but really, when you think of “Sin City” you think of Marv. Rosario Dawson also did a very good job of embiggening her character a great deal … she projected real menace.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/95 "2010-07-10T06:13:00Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> **Will Ferrell** in **Wedding Crashers**

huh. I can’t even remember Will Ferrell in Wedding Crashers.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/96 "2010-07-10T06:17:15Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> huh. I can’t even remember Will Ferrell in Wedding Crashers.

He’s moved on to crashing funerals.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/97 "2010-07-10T06:28:56Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> _He’s in the middle of the poster_. His face is larger than the other three, and his name is listed first. You’re right that he’s a much bigger star after the movies than he was before, but he was a big name before that.

So? According to **Tanbarkie** , the production people themselves say he wasn’t supposed to be a main character at first, and that this was changed due to Depp’s performance. Given that information, I’d say he was played up after they realized he was going to be giving such a good performance. This makes him the rare example of someone who stole the show before it was released.

(Heath Ledger’s The Joker would also qualify, although he did it much later in the cycle.)

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/98 "2010-07-10T08:45:46Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> He’s moved on to crashing funerals.

oh yeah! I forgot all about that. He apparently didn’t make an impression on me at all. If anything, it was a negative impression.

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/99 "2010-07-10T15:15:30Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Here’s a dark horse… [Absence of Malice](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081974/)
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> The movie was convoluted and talky, and about 100 minutes in the 116 minute long film, was nowhere near being resolved. Then **Wilford Brimley** of all people comes in as Judge, Jury, and Executioner, wraps everything up (in what was easily the most electric scene in the movie), departs, and after a goodbye scene between Paul Newman and Sally Field, ROLL CREDITS.

Not a dark horse at all - it was one of the first I thought of.

Brimley has fabulous lines: “Now we’ll talk all day if you want to. But, come sundown, there’s gonna be two things true that ain’t true now. One is that the United States Department of Justice is gonna know what in the good Christ is going on around here. And the other’s I’m gonna have somebody’s ass in my briefcase.”

And this one: “We can’t have people go around leaking stuff for their own reasons. It ain’t legal. And worse than that, by God it ain’t right.”

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-he-stole-the-movie/545952/100 "2010-07-10T15:16:54Z")

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Donkey stole the movie from Shrek!

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