# She-Hulk: Attorney at Law **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [May 18, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591 "2022-05-18T02:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/122 "2022-08-26T13:23:59Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Bruce Banner / Hulk is a complete ahole. I’m curious-in what way is he an ahole? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/123 "2022-08-26T13:25:17Z")
Well, he _is_ always angry. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/124 "2022-08-26T13:26:35Z")
He’s on her constantly about the sacrifices she need to make as a super hero. Really dick moves in her training. Etc. He doesn’t even give her time to adjust to being a hulk. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/125 "2022-08-26T13:38:43Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > He’s on her constantly about the sacrifices she need to make as a super hero. He’s not wrong about any of it. Marvel is the “great power, great responsibility” universe. There are no happy superheroes. Bruce isn’t an asshole; he’s a deeply damaged person who managed to come through massive amounts of trauma with his sanity somehow intact. He’s rightly terrified about the amount of trauma she’s likely to endure now that she has powers and is trying to prepare her for it. I agree that he wasn’t doing a very good job, but it’s clear that Bruce is freaking out and projecting his issues onto his baby cousin. She recognizes it and calls him out. I thought it was well done all around. Except for the CGI. So bad. And isn’t this a revamped version? I never watched the original clips, but I seem to recall that the CGI in the trailers was so bad that they went back and fixed a lot of it. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/126 "2022-08-26T14:21:56Z")
She-Hulk helping with housework gave me flashbacks to the Bionic Woman doing the same decades ago. Why don’t they show superheroes doing housework? I wondered. Then I remembered the Flash (Arrowverse) sometimes being shown doing it, especially setting the table. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/127 "2022-08-26T14:48:07Z")
“I’m a completely different person now…literally”. It’s funny because it’s true! Emil Blonsky / Abomination actually had a point. Legally speaking, Hulk was the “bad guy” and Emil Blonsky was (mostly) acting as an agent of the United States government to stop him. > [@planetcory](#): > > The CGI is really jarring in a lot of places. > > She’s not fantastically huge. I don’t feel like it would’ve been impossible to find a super tall muscular actress to be physically present. Green makeup. Deep fake the face. Voice over. > > But I’m sure I’m just ignorant to all the ways that would’ve been too difficult. They would still need CGI for all the super human Hulk action as well as a normal-sized Jennifer Walters actress. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/128 "2022-08-26T15:02:57Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > “I’m a completely different person now…literally”. I laughed at that one! It is funny because it’s true! > [@msmith537](#): > > Emil Blonsky / Abomination actually had a point. Legally speaking, Hulk was the “bad guy” and Emil Blonsky was (mostly) acting as an agent of the United States government to stop him. I also liked this as well. To me, I saw Jennifer, the lawyer, start seeing some ways to defend Blonsky and see some angles that could be worked. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/129 "2022-08-26T16:46:05Z")
Yeah, but all the ‘sitting and talking at a table’ action would be vastly improved. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/130 "2022-08-26T17:24:38Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > There were also vague plans for a She-Hulk movie in the 90s, intended to star Brigitte Nielsen. There are pics: [http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix9/shehulknielsen.html](http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix9/shehulknielsen.html) Quick thought: I am now wondering if Banner was pushing Walters to be a hero because he knew he had to leave Earth and go to Sakaar. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/131 "2022-08-26T17:28:57Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > This is the first thing in the entire MCU I actively dislike. There were a few meh movies but watching this is an active chore. I agree with the horrible CGI (love the Fiona comparison) but what really throws it of is that Hulk looks like Bruce Banner - only hulkier. When Jennifer turns into She-Hulk, it’s all about boobs, butt and short curly hair becoming long straight hair. It’s like they based the CGI on a different actress. Oh, and now Bruce Banner / Hulk is a complete ahole. Hmm. See, I don’t really care about the visuals at all. I think they’re fine. I don’t even have a problem with the general story line. I just think the pacing and the dialogue isn’t well done. And Bruce is an asshole? I never read any Hulk comics and the Hulk never really made an impression of me as depicted in the movies. My Hulk is basically Bill Bixby as the stressed out and angsty David Banner from the 1970s TV show. So, to me, it’s David/Bruce Banner that’s the actual character. The Hulk is just a plot device that shows up in key moments. So, seeing the Hulk with a personality is different for me. And the “Smart” Hulk played by Mark Ruffalo? He’s kind of adorable. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/132 "2022-08-26T20:34:44Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > And Bruce is an asshole? > > I never read any Hulk comics and the Hulk never really made an impression of me as depicted in the movies. My Hulk is basically Bill Bixby as the stressed out and angsty David Banner from the 1970s TV show Comic book Banner (Bruce) isn’t anything like Bill Bixby (David). The readers’ sympathy is usually reserved for Hulk; not Bruce. I’m not sure how he’s portrayed now, but for much of the Nineties and Aughts he was, indeed, portrayed as an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/133 "2022-08-27T08:01:58Z")
This episode also had an Easter egg that seems to refer to Wolverine. Right after Jen is fired by her boss, and is at home, using her laptop, a link on the page she’s looking at says “Man fights with metal claws in bar brawl.” You can see a screenshot of it [here](https://imgur.com/a/E8CAPwQ). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/134 "2022-08-27T09:42:14Z")
A question has in the past popped up: is The Incredible Hulk movie canon in the MCU? If not, we don’t really know anything about Bruce’s childhood. This episode clearly answers it. This ep also had an Eternals Easter egg, as well as the “metal claw man” mentioned by @Superdude. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/135 "2022-08-27T10:04:59Z")
That movie, _Incredible Hulk_, unofficially marked the start of the MCU, because Thunderbolt\* Ross (William Hurt) had been included canonically ever since. And would still, if the actor hadn’t died recently. Also, the events of the movie were heavily referred to in an episode of _What If?_ which, though the series was questionably canonical itself, nonetheless implied that Feige was including it in the larger collective storyline. \*_His name will carry on in the announced Thunderbolts movie, but I expect they will be headed by Julia Louis-Dreyfus now._ ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/136 "2022-08-27T10:11:01Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > That movie, _Incredible Hulk_, unofficially marked the start of the MCU, because Thunderbolt\* Ross (William Hurt) had been included canonically ever since. And would still, if the actor hadn’t died recently. It's also referenced by Bruce in _the Avengers_: “The last time I was in New York I broke, umm, Harlem.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/137 "2022-08-27T11:07:07Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > That movie, _Incredible Hulk_, unofficially marked the start of the MCU, because Thunderbolt\* Ross (William Hurt) had been included canonically ever since. Plus, uh, Stark (Robert Downey Jr). ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/138 "2022-08-27T12:04:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A question has in the past popped up: is The Incredible Hulk movie canon in the MCU? If not, we don’t really know anything about Bruce’s childhood. This episode clearly answers it. I think you’re confusing _The Hulk_ with _The Incredible Hulk_. _The Hulk_ is the one with Eric Bana that’s all about the relationship with his dad. That’s non-canon. _The Incredible Hulk_ is the one with Edward Norton where he fights the Abomination. That one is canon. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/139 "2022-08-27T12:33:42Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Plus, uh, Stark (Robert Downey Jr). Tony Stark wasn’t in the _Incredible Hulk_ movie. But General Ross did appear in the post-credits clip of _Iron Man_. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/140 "2022-08-27T12:35:41Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Tony Stark wasn’t in the _Incredible Hulk_ movie. But General Ross did appear in the post-credits clip of _Iron Man_ [On the contrary](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLVylbi12jw). ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/141 "2022-08-27T12:38:42Z")
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