# She-Hulk: Attorney at Law **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [May 18, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591 "2022-05-18T02:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/162 "2022-08-29T15:11:29Z")
Good points. Almost convincing! šŸ˜ƒ But arguing with cousin who he has lots of rivalry with and who he is not used to being able to win against him, ever? Context on that point too. Hearsay evidence level. Supportive of the case. But not ā€œcanonā€ level. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/163 "2022-08-29T15:15:32Z")
Well, if weā€™re saying we canā€™t accept hearsay as evidence, I think itā€™s safe to assume that nearly all MCU characters are virgins. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/164 "2022-08-29T15:15:33Z")
Interesting way to put it in a show with a lawyer protagonist šŸ¤Ŗ ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/165 "2022-08-29T15:45:48Z")
I think the Cap/Virgin dialog was just supposed to show that Bruce and Jen are as much Marvel fan nerds as the viewers. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/166 "2022-08-29T15:51:35Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I think the Cap/Virgin dialog was just supposed to show that Bruce and Jen are as much Marvel fan nerds as the viewers.   Maybe that whole line of dialogue is intended to be fourth-wall breaking? Which brings up an interesting question: is dialogue thatā€™s spoken directly through the fourth wall to the audience canon? Or is it more of an editorial comment made by the character? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/167 "2022-08-29T17:08:30Z")
[Itā€™s canon. The creators of the show said it was.](https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/she-hulk-kevin-feige-decided-how-captain-america-lost-his-virginity/) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/168 "2022-08-29T17:46:37Z")
Iā€™ll grant a creator saying so gives something canon status. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/169 "2022-08-29T18:41:28Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Hearing Cap say it for ourselves, knowing that Cap doesnā€™t lie? Iā€™m curious how you came up with this idea. Heā€™s a very trustworthy and principled man, but _never lying_? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/170 "2022-08-29T18:55:46Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Heā€™s a very trustworthy and principled man, but _never lying_? ā€œHail Hydraā€ - more misdirection since he didnā€™t actually say he was a member, but he _did_ say that the Secretary had asked him to take the Scepter - which is an out and out lie. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/171 "2022-08-29T18:57:00Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Iā€™ll grant a creator saying so gives something canon status. Why? Tomorrow they will change their minds? Canon is something only to be disputed; never to be settled. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/172 "2022-08-29T19:15:29Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@DSeid](#): > > > > Iā€™ll grant a creator saying so gives something canon status. > > Why? Tomorrow they will change their minds? Canon is something only to be disputed; never to be settled.   Agreed. Authors get the first say, but not the last. ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/173 "2022-08-29T19:38:14Z")
I would bet that Steve Rodgers said he slept with a USO girl just to get the guys off his back. It would be super easy, hardly an inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/174 "2022-08-29T19:55:57Z")
Poor, innocent Steve Rogers would be easy prey for those USO girls with their womanly wiles. Heā€™s lucky he didnā€™t get trapped into a shotgun marriage. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/175 "2022-08-29T20:24:58Z")
Let me elaborate: Before the experiment, he was a nerd. A geek. An incel. He spent his adolescence listening to the ā€œletā€™s be friendsā€ speech. After the experiment, he was tall, strong, and handsome. Women who had been way out of his league, now found him desirable. I donā€™t care how smitten he was with Agent Carter. Thereā€™s no way he would stay a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/176 "2022-08-29T20:25:09Z")
> [@Galactus](#): > > I would bet that Steve Rodgers said he slept with a USO girl just to get the guys off his back. It would be super easy, hardly an inconvenience. Know what would also have been super easy for him? Sleeping with a USO girl. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/177 "2022-08-29T20:44:28Z")
Or four. **Super** -soldier, remember? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/178 "2022-08-29T20:53:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > super easy for him? Sleeping with a USO girl. Not for Steve Rodgers it wouldnā€™t. He is the one person you can count on to always do whatā€™s right. The whole basis of Steveā€™s personality is always walking the honorable path. Sex before marriage would be out of character. Just my opinion of course. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/179 "2022-08-29T21:05:40Z")
> [@Galactus](#): > > Sex before marriage would be out of character. One thing people always forget about Steve Rogers is that he may be from the 1940s, but heā€™s from Brooklyn, not Kansas. He went on dates. He hung out with Bucky, who _definitely_ didnā€™t wait for marriage. We shouldnā€™t ascribe Victorian (or Evangelical) mores to a New Yorker who grew up in the Jazz Age . ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/180 "2022-08-29T21:09:51Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > One thing people always forget about Steve Rogers is that he may be from the 1940s, but heā€™s from Brooklyn, not Kansas. He went on dates. He hung out with Bucky, who _definitely_ didnā€™t wait for marriage. And theyā€™ve been on double dates too. When heā€™s on the date with the one girl in First Avenger, heā€™s actually doing a pretty good job until he decides to go enlist for the umpteenth time. Also, my number one piece of evidence is in First Avenger when Natalie Dormer jumps him, if they wanted to play him as a virgin, they wouldā€™ve done the silly ā€œIā€™m inexperienced and pulling away and waving my arms in the airā€ action. Instead he full on makes out with her. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591/181 "2022-08-29T21:36:21Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > One thing people always forget about Steve Rogers is that he may be from the 1940s, but heā€™s from Brooklyn, not Kansas. He went on dates. He hung out with Bucky, who _definitely_ didnā€™t wait for marriage. We shouldnā€™t ascribe Victorian (or Evangelical) mores to a New Yorker who grew up in the Jazz Age . On top of that, Steve was a New Deal Democrat. People assume, ā€œHeā€™s old, so heā€™s probably pretty conservative,ā€ but politically, heā€™d be a little to the left of Bernie Sanders. > [@Galactus](#): > > I would bet that Steve Rodgers said he slept with a USO girl just to get the guys off his back. > [@Galactus](#): > > Not for Steve Rodgers it wouldnā€™t. He is the one person you can count on to always do whatā€™s right. The whole basis of Steveā€™s personality is always walking the honorable path. Sex before marriage would be out of character. Just my opinion of course. Thereā€™s nothing dishonorable about pre-martial sex, but there is a little bit of dishonor in misrepresenting yourself to win the approval of your peers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-hulk-attorney-at-law/964591.md?page=10)