# SHE is Thor, hear her roar!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 15, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180 "2014-07-15T17:08:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180/61 "2014-07-19T15:43:08Z")

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Ten years from now, Thor’s going to be a dude again.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180/62 "2014-07-19T16:58:48Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Ten years from now, Thor’s going to be a dude again.

_One_ year from now, Thor’s going to be in the lead again. The movies trump all - they didn’t even leave Nick Fury as he’s been for the past sixty years, they replaced him with Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury because that’s the one they have in the movies.

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**Author:** ![Meloy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@Meloy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meloy)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180/63 "2014-07-19T17:01:10Z")

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Black Nick Fury predates Sam Jackson’s portrayal by years.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180/64 "2014-07-19T17:02:50Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> While an interesting set of stories, I’m not sure that the transexual/transvestite community is a large enough demographic that Marvel would want to make sure that one of their key titles is devoted to them.
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> With Thor being a manly-man, men want to be him and women want him. With Thor being a womanly-woman, women to be her and men want her. With Thor as a cross-dresser or gender-switched, he’s not very appealing to either of the two big demographics.

Well, the new Thor reminds me of the (entirely worthy) army sergeant I dated many years ago, so FWIW I like it, though maybe not for an especially good reason. Point being, I am a part of one of the two big demographics.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/she-is-thor-hear-her-roar/693180/65 "2014-07-19T17:18:49Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> _One_ year from now, Thor’s going to be in the lead again. The movies trump all - they didn’t even leave Nick Fury as he’s been for the past sixty years, they replaced him with Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury because that’s the one they have in the movies.

Maybe eighteen months, depending on book sales. But the reversion will have nothing to do with the movies. It’s the nature of the medium that these changes almost never last more than two years, even when there’s not a billion dollar film franchise attached.

> [@Meloy](#):
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> Black Nick Fury predates Sam Jackson’s portrayal by years.

Yes and no. Nick Fury was explicitly modeled on Sam Jackson for the Ultimate universe, and that inspired Marvel Studios to cast Jackson in the role for the movies. Due to the success of the movies, the main Marvel universe introduced [Nick Fury, Jr](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury,_Jr.), who happened to be black, bald, and missing the same eye as dad. Then Nick Fury, Sr. was shuffled off stage and his son took over his role, both within SHIELD, and the larger meta-narrative of the Marvel comic universe.

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