# Sheep go to heaven; Goats go to hell, or Scott\_plaid's very own atheism thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 1, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379 "2005-03-01T02:22:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/21 "2005-03-01T15:20:43Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I mean, if I were going to burst into a community being all aggressive and ridiculing many of its members, I would at least try not to sound like an idiot. If you are talkiong about this thread I have not responded to any of the jabs directed at me. I didn’t know that I would be thus ridiculing people by doing so. If you are talking about other threads then, yes, I did call Liberal, "Libby. I It was pointed out to me that I shouldn’t and I stopped doing it… If you are talking about the fact that you think my pointing out problems in religion is bad, and my defending my point in an arguement is bad, then you are free to put me on your ignore list, but as per the rules, don’t tell me that you did. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/22 "2005-03-01T16:03:59Z")
This is just a quick followup, **Scott\_plaid**. I wanted to ask my question again to determine authoritatively whether you simply missed it or are ignoring me. Either one is fine, I just want to be sure. (Approximately speaking) How old are you? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/23 "2005-03-01T16:11:23Z")
You’re welcome to talk about “problems in religion” and to ridicule what you find ridiculous. The point some of us are making is that you are generalizing and stereotyping to an extent that is not appropriate. Would you care to enter into dialogue with us on that, or are you going to be dogmatic about your view? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/24 "2005-03-01T16:22:19Z")
> [@andros](#): > > (Approximately speaking) How old are you? When I last saw your question, I had just finished posting that I was about to log off, in post 4. I intended to answer your question in the morning. That is, until I saw your post in which you asked “[Why does Keenspace suck so very badly?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5896008#post5896008)” > [@andros](#): > > Because a free shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich. Duh. > > \ > Why do you assume I don’t? Why do you think I’ve actually read so damn many Keenspace strips? > > \ > Some bare modicum of artistic ability for one. The ability to write coherently for another. Some skill at plotting would help, too. Somehow, the fact that people posted well written, comic strips with nice characters didn’t get through to you. You keep on insulting other people’s hard work. Somehow, in some manner, this seems reminisant of trolling. So, no, I will not tell you my age. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/25 "2005-03-01T16:23:31Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > If you are talkiong about this thread I have not responded to any of the jabs directed at me. I didn’t know that I would be thus ridiculing people by doing so. If you are talking about other threads then, yes, I did call Liberal, "Libby. I It was pointed out to me that I shouldn’t and I stopped doing it… If you are talking about the fact that you think my pointing out problems in religion is bad, and my defending my point in an arguement is bad, then you are free to put me on your ignore list, but as per the rules, don’t tell me that you did. Did you write [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5893171&postcount=8)? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5893025&postcount=4)? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5890792&postcount=6)? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5890696&postcount=2)? [This whole friggin’ thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304101)? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5879265&postcount=4) (in response to the question of whether people are religious for no reason other than that they’re raised that way)? And finally, [this](Well, I was trying to be grating, in a kind-of-teasing-a-christian sort of way, but the argument still stands.)? In that last one, you say explicitly: “Well, **I was trying to be grating, in a kind-of-teasing-a-christian sort of way** , but the argument still stands.” (Emphasis mine.) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/26 "2005-03-01T16:26:27Z")
Corrected link: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5872624&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5872624&postcount=31) ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/27 "2005-03-01T16:43:48Z")
Oh dear lord. Someone asked if people “are religious just because they are raised this way”, and I responded yes, in the link provided in the link in the word "this” So yes, I did post my opinion in the thread you have posted. I have post some as fact, since many of them are fact, as far I can tell. I imagine it grated on some people’s nerves. When I mangled your name I took the mods criticism to heart and resolved not too do it again. If you were upset about anything in this thread however, well, I don’t know what you can expect. My name is in the tile. Earlier in this thread (post 23) I was accused of being dogmatic. I certainly do believe that I am right about what I have posted, but the fact that the verses I have post are in the christians “holy” book is, well, a fact. I believe that their being there is harmful. You might not believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/28 "2005-03-01T16:53:35Z")
Oh dear lord indeed. You had an opportunity to review the record and own up to the fact that you’ve been engaging in rhetorical thuggery, apologize for it, and start anew. Instead, you reeled off a rambling denial with the syntax of a toothache, and completely avoided commenting on your declaration that you were “trying to be grating, in a kind-of-teasing-a-christian sort of way”. And you’ve called Andros, whose online reputation is absolutely spotless, a troll. Care to try again? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/29 "2005-03-01T17:13:08Z")
Nope, I don’t believe that I am engaged in “rhetorical thuggery” (sings) When you’re a Thug, You’re a Thug all the way From your first cigarette To your last dyin’ day. (stops short) Why in the hel am I singing “West Side Story” for? I should be answering. Ok, I do not believe that by sticking to my guns I was engaging in thuggery. Most, (but not all) cases of thuggery occur when the victim is unable to defend themselves. Care to dissect what I have said, beside on the basis of grammar, right here right now. After all, it won’t be getting of the topic, as it is a thread for an annoyance of mine. Also, in a related manner, I can believe that andros’s statements where meant not to be trolling, but then again they might be. The only way to determine is to get inside andros’s head” Being John Malkovich" style, and determine if he intended to annoy rabid keenspot fans such as myself. Without such a dramatic device however, I believe that the thread comics appeared to be trolling. I am going to look for the thread saying what to do in the event of a trolling. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/30 "2005-03-01T17:18:08Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > Somehow, the fact that people posted well written, comic strips with nice characters didn’t get through to you. You keep on insulting other people’s hard work. Somehow, in some manner, this seems reminisant of trolling. > > So, no, I will not tell you my age. Wow. Are you anthing like this much of a fucking crybaby in real life? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/31 "2005-03-01T17:25:26Z")
What a recalcitrant jackass. All I can say is that I’m glad he’s on the other side. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/32 "2005-03-01T17:28:54Z")
:::: breaks out list of people who “know the truth; don’t confuse them with the facts” ::: ::: adds **Scott\_plaid** ::: ::: closes thread window, disappointed that like **His4Ever** and a few others, **S\_p** is not interested in honest discussion ::: ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/33 "2005-03-01T17:31:13Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > ::: closes thread window, disappointed that like **His4Ever** and a few others, **S\_p** is not interested in honest discussion ::: (Aside to **Scott\_plaid** : So’s you know, he just compared you to a frothing fundamentalist evangelical. And he’s accurate.) ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/34 "2005-03-01T17:32:27Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Wow. Are you anthing like this much of a fucking crybaby in real life? Wow, it’s like you know me. But really, care to explain how that was not being horrible to hard working artists? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/35 "2005-03-01T18:00:47Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > Wow, it’s like you know me. But really, care to explain how that was not being horrible to hard working artists? Not in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/36 "2005-03-01T18:06:10Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Not in this thread. Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/37 "2005-03-01T18:22:08Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > Hmmm. 😕 I figured you’d prefer to discuss this thread’s issues in this thread, and another thread’s issues in that thread. Correct me if I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/38 "2005-03-01T18:26:46Z")
> [@andros](#): > > 😕 I figured you’d prefer to discuss this thread’s issues in this thread, and another thread’s issues in that thread. Correct me if I’m wrong. If you prefer. I figured as long as you were here, but ok. I’ll post there. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/39 "2005-03-01T19:01:58Z")
Well Liberal, if you are still here, then andros has responded. If you feel like it, then feel free to point out what problems you have seen with the past post you have lined to. P.S. I am aware that my spell check is not able to correct when I use “that” when I should have used “then”, thank you very much. I am also aware that some think my wording is “childish” ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379/40 "2005-03-01T19:39:46Z")
**Scott\_plaid** , scroll back up a few posts and note where you have been compared to a closed-minded, uninformed, know-it-all Fundamentalist Christian. Then note that that evaluation of your presentation is seconded. The point is that you have consistently posted rather dramatic condemnations of Christianity and religion that are inaccurate (as to what the religious people believe), and posted in a taunting manner that looks really silly considering the ignorance you display in your straw-man attacks. You look a LOT like the periodic Creationist poster than wanders through the SDMB shouting that scientists have got it all wrong and that Ev_i_lution is a grand atheistic plot. In fact, I suspect that simply by changing a couple of words, we could turn most of your rants into Creationist diatribes. (Although, most of them have demonstrated a better grasp of spelling and grammar.) Now, as I pointed out in an earleir thread, I am sure that you _are_ having fun. However, you are doing nothing to make yourself respected, or even accepted, on the SDMB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheep-go-to-heaven-goats-go-to-hell-or-scott_plaids-very-own-atheism-thread/292379.md?page=3)