# Shelley Longs and David Carusos **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455 "2014-11-12T15:47:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/81 "2014-11-13T20:12:25Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Wither “The Apple Dumpling Gang”? I thought one of my favorite film quotes was in that film, but no:ABC Movie of the week film: The Over The Hill Gang. Chill Wills is in a poker game (and dealing the crooks extra aces) and when everyone shows their hand, he says, _“I ain’t one to quibble over the rules, but seven aces in one deck… shoowee…that’s a LOT of aces.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/82 "2014-11-13T20:35:14Z")
All this talk of William Shatner and all his TV work and nobody mentions [his crowning achievement](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612578/). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/83 "2014-11-13T20:41:04Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Lacey Chabert left Family Guy, and other than Lost in Space and Mean Girls, I don’t know what she’s been in since then (she was in Party of Five at the time). Meanwhile, Mila Kunis took over as Meg, and has pocketed quite a bit of money for it since then. A mistake only in hindsight. And Chabert didn’t leave for movie roles. She left to concentrate on college. And at the time Chabert left Family Guy (the middle of the second season), the show was struggling in the ratings and was only barely renewed and eventually was canceled a year later. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/84 "2014-11-13T21:06:29Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > All this talk of William Shatner and all his TV work and nobody mentions his crowning achievement. I never had either the inclination or desire to watch an episode of this series (not even with Mr Shatner as the lead), and after reading its synopsis I can see I was absolutely right in not doing so! (The only two US sitcoms I _did_ start watching after _ **Cheers!** _ ended were _ **Frasier** _ and _ **Big Bang Theory** _. All of the others I sampled were lame or just plain **not funny at all** , IMHO. :mad: ) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/85 "2014-11-13T22:22:53Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > All this talk of William Shatner and all his TV work and nobody mentions [his crowning achievement](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612578/). > > 😃 I rather enjoyed Shatner’s turn in Brad Paisley’s _[Celebrity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9mpDAJOPac&spfreload=10)_ video 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/86 "2014-11-13T22:26:04Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Lacey Chabert left Family Guy, and other than Lost in Space and Mean Girls, I don’t know what she’s been in since then (she was in Party of Five at the time). Appearing in every third Hallmark Movie. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/87 "2014-11-13T22:46:07Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > All this talk of William Shatner and all his TV work and nobody mentions [his crowning achievement](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612578/). > > 😃 I thought \*\*\*Big Bad Mama \*\*\*was his crowning achievement. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/88 "2014-11-13T23:28:30Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I never had either the inclination or desire to watch an episode of this series (not even with Mr Shatner as the lead), and after reading its synopsis I can see I was absolutely right in not doing so! I liked it. I was sad when it was canceled. Will Sasso and Nicole Sullivan were also in it and are two very funny people and played two quite sympathetic characters as his son and daughter-in-law. One of my favorite scenes was when Shatner was in a karaoke bar and was asked if he wanted to sing. When it was suggested he sing “Rocket Man,” he quickly said, “Oh, no. Not tonight.” ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/89 "2014-11-14T01:30:48Z")
One thing funny about Clooney - he was also in a different show called E/R that only lasted 1 year. [E/R - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E/R) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/90 "2014-11-14T06:55:38Z")
> [@TV\_time](#): > > Well…it was no _The Ghost and Mr. Chicken_. I gotta agree. As much as I enjoy _Mr. Limpet_, I have to say _The Ghost and Mr Chicken_ is pretty much the height of Don Knott’s film career. It’s as close to a perfect vehicle for a comedian as I’ve seen. And that whole thing about 5 Emmys for the same role? The only other performer I know of who won 5 Emmys for the same role is Candace Bergen for _Murphy Brown_. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/91 "2014-11-14T17:04:24Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > And that whole thing about 5 Emmys for the same role? The only other performer I know of who won 5 Emmys for the same role is Candace Bergen for _Murphy Brown_. And, despite several funny movie performances, Candace Bergen has been far more successful on TV than in films!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/92 "2014-11-14T17:35:17Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Bill Shatner kind of fits into this category. His dream was to become as fine an actor as Laurence Olivier and do high drama.\* It was more for financial reasons that he started doing TV, and _ **Star Trek** _ in particular (just prior to _ **Trek** _, he had done a laughably bad pilot called _ **Alexander the Great** _, produced by the same people who did _ **Combat!** _). Alas, his hopes went largely unfulfilled after _ **TOS** _ ran its course, and he’s now Captain Kirk, more or less, for life. > > \*I won’t even mention \*\*\*Incubus \*\*\*here! 😃 TJ Hooker was a popular series as was The Practice and he won two emmy’s for that role. (aw well as a Golden Globe) It’s not hubris to try new things. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/93 "2014-11-14T18:36:12Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > TJ Hooker was a popular series as was The Practice and he won two emmy’s for that role. (aw well as a Golden Globe) > It’s not hubris to try new things. Yet another voice in the Great Shatner Debate. Awesome! 🆒 I’m beginning to think the man deserves his own thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/94 "2014-11-14T19:05:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > That’s incorrect. > > He left because he thought his soon-to-be ex-wife Elizabeth Ashley wasn’t good enough for the money he would have made in the third season. He quit because it made a more favorable (for him) divorce settlement. > > So whatever you think of him as a husband, it wasn’t delusions of grandeur that caused him to quit Banacek. It should also be mentioned that he was also clashing big time with the production company that was putting his (and the three others in the rotation) out. He always claimed that he had been promised well written scripts and location shoots in Europe and the Middle East, but instead he ended up on the back lot doing pot boilers. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/95 "2014-11-14T19:10:38Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Yet another voice in the Great Shatner Debate. Awesome! 🆒 > > I’m beginning to think the man deserves his own thread. 😃 Only a true Shanter fan could appreciate the awesomeness of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=cKo4FMzt_hM). William Fucking Shatner sings “Bohemian Rhapsody.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/96 "2014-11-14T19:59:38Z")
Since this has turned into the Bill Shatner thread. I thought it was interesting to see him playing Shirley Jones son on _Hot in Cleveland_. Shatner is 83 and Jones is 80. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/97 "2014-11-14T20:27:56Z")
Hey, I’ve laughed at Shatner jokes\* many times, but really, what does he have to be embarrassed about? He MAY be a jerk (many sources say so), he IS a ham. But the man has had a very long, very successful career, he’s been a huge star, and he’s made a ton of money. So, what does HE care if we laugh at his inflections or his over-emoting? My favorite Shatner joke came in an old variety show sketch from decades ago. The sketch involved “Celebrity Math.” A few equations they taught: Marie Osmond plus Crocodile Dundee = Olivia Newton-John Laurence Olivier minus Laurence Olivier = William Shatner ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/98 "2014-11-14T20:36:33Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > All this talk of William Shatner and all his TV work and nobody mentions [his crowning achievement](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612578/). > > 😃 I thought it was **Barbary Coast** 13 episodes! Five fewer than **S#!t My Dad Says** And it co-starred Richard Kiel! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/99 "2014-11-14T20:42:19Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > My favorite Shatner joke came in an old variety show sketch from decades ago. The sketch involved “Celebrity Math.” A few equations they taught: > > Marie Osmond plus Crocodile Dundee = Olivia Newton-John > > Laurence Olivier minus Laurence Olivier = William Shatner Don’t tell me, let me guess: John Byner’s _ **Bizarre** _, right? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455/100 "2014-11-14T22:00:59Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Don’t tell me, let me guess: John Byner’s _ **Bizarre** _, right? :dubious: Maybe, I honestly don’t remember the show- just the joke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shelley-longs-and-david-carusos/704455.md?page=6)