# Sheriff Arpaio gets schooled

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938 "2014-10-29T21:47:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/21 "2014-10-30T02:01:28Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I guess given how bad things look for your side these days, I’m not surprised that you would glom onto this as some sort of bright spot. The judge is an idiot, just like you. Arpaio does his job very well. So well, they should put him in charge of the whole border. But enjoy your glee. While you can.

Or what, jackass? What’s going to happen? Please tell us about the right-wing wet dream you envision for the future that involves Arpaio.  
Or run off and hide again.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/22 "2014-10-30T02:07:47Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Or what, jackass? What’s going to happen? Please tell us about the right-wing wet dream you envision for the future that involves Arpaio.  
> Or run off and hide again.

He means the mid-terms. It looks bad for “the liberals” because a bunch of drooling chucklefucks are in good position to take over the Senate. And Magellan is stupid enough to think that’s a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/23 "2014-10-30T02:15:25Z")

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> [@DummyGladHands](#):
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> I’ve met him 2X. He’s completely senile.

Oh, you cannot just leave it like that – spill!

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/24 "2014-10-30T04:24:30Z")

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> [@slitterst](#):
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> I don’t know how Arizona works, but in many states, the cities are not considered part of the counties that surround them. So all those well-edumacated city folk may not have any say in who gets elected in Maricopa county.

Cities are usually in counties, not “surrounded by” them. I’ve never seen or lived in a city in the U.S. the residents of which did not get to vote in the county elections for the county they also lived in. I would be interested to see an example of such. Can you provide one?

My examples are: Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon; Chicago, Cook County, Illinois; Dallas, Dallas County, Texas; San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, and all the cities and towns in Los Angeles County, California.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/25 "2014-10-30T04:53:13Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> That sounds amazingly like a threat. What’s going to happen to curtail our glee? Arpaio and his jackbooted thugs will cross into California and arrest me?

[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
Or what, jackass? What’s going to happen? Please tell us about the right-wing wet dream you envision for the future that involves Arpaio.  
Or run off and hide again.  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe you two dolts can get together so you have two synapses firing. If you’re successful, you may come to realize that there is an election not even a week away.

:rolleyes: Unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/26 "2014-10-30T05:16:13Z")

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> [@DummyGladHands](#):
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> I’ve met him 2X. He’s completely senile.

What the hell were you thinking?!? That kinda crazy can rub off on you yanno! 😃

Regards,  
-Bouncer-

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/27 "2014-10-30T05:18:22Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Cities are usually in counties, not “surrounded by” them. I’ve never seen or lived in a city in the U.S. the residents of which did not get to vote in the county elections for the county they also lived in. I would be interested to see an example of such. Can you provide one?
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> My examples are: Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon; Chicago, Cook County, Illinois; Dallas, Dallas County, Texas; San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, and all the cities and towns in Los Angeles County, California.

It’s common in states in the East, especially Virginia. Virginia has many cities that are not part of any county. Another that I know is that the city of Baltimore is not part of Baltimore County, Maryland.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/28 "2014-10-30T05:21:45Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> It’s common in states in the East, especially Virginia.

Virginia is the only state where it’s common. There are 41 “independent cities” in the United States and 38 of them are there.

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**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/29 "2014-10-30T05:23:23Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Cities are usually in counties, not “surrounded by” them. I’ve never seen or lived in a city in the U.S. the residents of which did not get to vote in the county elections for the county they also lived in. I would be interested to see an example of such. Can you provide one?

Sure, there’s lots in VA (35+ including the state capitol (Richmond, VA)). I’ve lived in a couple (Norfolk, Virginia Beach and Richmond), and city residents don’t vote in county elections (and vice versa).

cite for you:

> **[Independent city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_city#United_States)**
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> An independent city or independent town is a city or town that does not form part of another general-purpose local government entity (such as a province).
> In the Holy Roman Empire, and to a degree in its successor states the German Confederation and the German Empire, so-called "free imperial cities" (nominative singular freie Reichsstadt, nominative plural freie Reichsstädte) held the legal status of imperial immediacy, according to which they were not subinfeudated to any vassal ruler and we...

Regards,  
-Bouncer-

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**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/30 "2014-10-30T05:25:08Z")

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Well I think we can consider that question asked and answered. 😃

Also: JINX on both of you and you each owe me a coke.

Regards,  
-Bouncer-

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/31 "2014-10-30T14:51:48Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Not everyone. I haven’t voted for him ever. I don’t “put up with”, I “endure”. Like a head cold. Or cancer. This, too, shall pass.
> 
> You do know how elections work? It’s not like I can personally remove him from office.

Well, you _could_, but I wouldn’t recommend it.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/32 "2014-10-30T15:02:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> The drought is killing all the plants?

That too.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/33 "2014-10-30T15:04:12Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Maybe you two dolts can get together so you have two synapses firing. If you’re successful, you may come to realize that there is an election not even a week away.

Is Arpaio up for re-election this year?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/34 "2014-10-30T16:01:22Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Is Arpaio up for re-election this year?

[See post #22.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17857326&postcount=22) The last sentence is particularly germane.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/35 "2014-10-30T16:04:04Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Is Arpaio up for re-election this year?

You truly are a stupid one. And I have proof.

**Lobohan** was able to figure out what you were unable to. 😉

OUCH!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/36 "2014-10-30T16:09:37Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You truly are a stupid one. And I have proof.
> 
> **Lobohan** was able to figure out what you were unable to. 😉
> 
> OUCH!

Oh, I knew you were talking about the Senate midterms, I’m just curious about Arpaio – on what cycle and for what term is his office? I could Wiki it, but I figured you as a fan would know off the top of your head.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/37 "2014-10-30T16:19:33Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> The judge is an idiot, just like you. Arpaio does his job very well. So well, they should put him in charge of the whole border. But enjoy your glee. While you can.

What do you mean, “while you can”? How are you envisioning that the upcoming midterm elections could possibly change Judge Snow’s ruling on disciplinary action for the 81-year-old Sheriff Arpaio?

AFAICT, this ruling (and whatever “glee” may be experienced on account of it) will stand no matter what happens at the polls Tuesday. Arpaio is appealing the ruling, of course, but he doesn’t seem to have a very good track record in persuading the courts to endorse his racist policies.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/38 "2014-10-30T16:20:21Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Oh, I knew you were talking about the Senate midterms, I’m just curious about Arpaio – on what cycle and for what term is his office? I could Wiki it, but I figured you as a fan would know off the top of your head.

His term runs concurrent to the President’s. His last electoral campaign was in 2012 (although he did successfully fend off a recall in 2013 – stupid Maricopa Countians :mad:).

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**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/39 "2014-10-30T16:23:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The Southwest is going to grow browner and browner with every decade and there is absolutely nothing you or Arpaio or the border patrol or the Minutemen or any Pub POTUS or Congress can do to stop that. So, enjoy . . . while you can . . .

How terribly depressing that you feel that way; so what you’re saying is that we Zonis can only enjoy Arizona until OMIGODTHERE’SMEXICANSEVERYWHERE!!! AND IT’S DOOMSDAY!!

jeez

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-arpaio-gets-schooled/702938/40 "2014-10-30T16:25:52Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> What do you mean, “while you can”? How are you envisioning that the upcoming midterm elections could possibly change Judge Snow’s ruling on disciplinary action for the 81-year-old Sheriff Arpaio?
> 
> AFAICT, this ruling (and whatever “glee” may be experienced on account of it) will stand no matter what happens at the polls Tuesday. Arpaio is appealing the ruling, of course, but he doesn’t seem to have a very good track record in persuading the courts to endorse his racist policies.

Odd that I even have to explain this, but okay. Come next Wednesday, the issue of the Senate will dwarf every minor issue, like this one. And if the results turn out as most people expect, libs will be crying in their beer.

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