# Sheriff Joe Arpaio says President Obama's birth certificate may be a fake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 1, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492 "2012-03-01T22:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/161 "2012-03-23T16:52:57Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Obama was born in a closet? No, I meant that nine months ago Jack had his way with a wardrobe. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/162 "2012-03-23T19:22:27Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Screw you guys and your so-called “humour.” > > My takeaway is gonna be that \*\*Jack Batty \*\*is a closet birther. \*\*Jack Batty \*\* is gay you say? I wonder why he never said anything. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/163 "2012-03-23T19:36:02Z")
Wardrobe sex does not make me homosexual. Of course it doesn’t make me heterosexual either. All I know is … that’s some good wood. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/164 "2012-03-24T00:03:06Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Wardrobe sex does not make me homosexual. Of course it doesn’t make me heterosexual either. All I know is … that’s some good wood. Beware of the wardrobe malfunction.:eek: ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/165 "2012-03-24T05:07:02Z")
\*\*Jack Batty \*\* is Aslan’s father? :eek: 🆒 CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/166 "2012-03-24T12:14:04Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It’s simply stating that if he was shown a film of Obama being born under a palm tree, he would think it was fake. You’re the one who brought up the fucking palm tree, after all. You should have been content to forge a video of Obama being born in a hospital room with a doctor saying, “Welcome to the finest hospital in HAWAII, Mrs. Obama,” and the nurse saying, “You certainly are a lucky woman, having a child in HAWAII,” and a sign pointing to the door, “This way to the long form birth registrar of HAWAII,” and so on. No, you had to throw in a palm tree, which could be in California, or Florida, or even Kenya. (Yes, Kenya has palm trees.) > > The Straight Dope > Explaining humor to the humorless since 1973 > (It’s impossible) My Oh MY, I am just laughing so hard it is hard to write …:D:D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/167 "2012-03-24T12:26:59Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Trust me. It’s yours. You’re wound up too tightly. I can just about guarantee you that there are approximately ZERO people on this board (give or take a nut or two) who think Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii – palm trees in hospitals or not. > > So calm down. Read for comprehension. And try to see about developing a sense of humor before your spleen blows up, ferchrissakes. I am quite calm…thank you! I didn’t accuse anyone on this board,and if they took offense that was not my intent. Nor that I can recall, did I imply that any one on the board is a Birther. So I am wondering why they would take offense at any of my statements. If anyone got that impression it may be that i didn’t state my opinion very well. It is part of my Philosophy to look for the truth. I do not believe in putting anyone down for their opinion if it disagrees with mine. Why you think I am angry because I state my opinion is a mystery to me! I am very slow to anger,and I also do not think that I am right all of the time, I do think I have a right to my own opinion, just as I also believe others have their right. Disagreeing with me is their right, and I can think it over, then try to understand their motive, or side of the debate. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/168 "2012-03-24T12:36:07Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That’s disappointing. I was hoping it would say that I accept that he was born in a delivery room in Kapiolani Women’s and Children’s Hospital, where there were no palm trees, and that the presence of a palm tree in any putative filmed record of the birth would indicate that said putative filmed record would be of questionable probative value. > > That’s what I was trying to communicate. I must be a very poor communicator. ☹ Perhaps I didn’t explain my point very well, and to me the word"IF" had a lot of power in how something is or not! I surely didn’t realize that the word Palm tree would bring about so many problems, and all people are not born in a hospital. Some women have given birth in a automobile or other place. According to the news, some have even given birth in a public restroom So I am wondering why there is such a todo about the word palm tree! ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/169 "2012-03-24T12:53:12Z")
In Hawaii, when a baby is born they put a lei around his neck. No picture of a bloody baby Obama with a lei around his neck = not born in a Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/170 "2012-03-25T12:10:59Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > In Hawaii, when a baby is born they put a lei around his neck. No picture of a bloody baby Obama with a lei around his neck = not born in a Hawaii. I guess that could be just as good a reason as any,but since Mrs Obama was in Hawaii at the time of his birth I wonder how he came out anywhere else, she must have really given a big push to send him way over to another country!:D:D:D:D:😛 ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/171 "2012-03-25T12:32:14Z")
Well it’s entirely possible that Obama wasn’t born to his mother, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/172 "2012-03-25T13:36:41Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Well it’s entirely possible that Obama wasn’t born to his mother, isn’t it? Yeah, we really need _another_ birther conspiracy about now… I know! She paid a white woman to give birth to him! That way the freepers can out Obama to the black community: “He’s not magic OR a negro!” ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/173 "2012-03-25T15:00:56Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Yeah, we really need _another_ birther conspiracy about now… > I know! She paid a white woman to give birth to him! That way the freepers can out Obama to the black community: “He’s not magic OR a negro!” That’s a bit circular. Let go of the last bit and most of the birther nonsense drops away. Then again, now that they found their little hammer, anyone who they don’t agree with starts looking like a nail. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/174 "2012-03-29T04:17:20Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I shit you not. He is a damn idiot. WHY does everyone idolize that shitbag so??? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/175 "2012-04-04T20:01:55Z")
[Turns out that Sheriff Joe may have had another motive for this stunt.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/arizona-sheriff-rejects-court-monitor-justice-department-threatens-to-sue/2012/04/03/gIQA8P8ztS_story.html?wprss=rss_politics) In the same day as the press conference, he was supposed to meet with Justice Department officials to negotiate the terms of Federal monitors for his police force. He blew the meeting off, and in effect declared Obama invalid, and maybe the scheme is to declare that all orders issued by the Executive branch of the Federal government are invalid until a “real American” is president. He also blew off a rescheduled meeting date, and is essentially refusing to cooperate with the Justice Department. They’re threatening to sue the department – t0o bad they can’t just slap him into one of his own cells. ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/176 "2012-04-04T20:39:54Z")
I am so glad that, as a taxpayer in Maricopa County, I will ultimately get to pay for this, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/177 "2012-04-04T21:09:36Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Well it’s entirely possible that Obama wasn’t born to his mother, isn’t it? It’s possible that he sprang fully-formed from the brow of his father. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/178 "2012-04-04T21:37:16Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Well it’s entirely possible that Obama wasn’t born to his mother, isn’t it? Well, they are Lizard People, so I guess that’s really a question of terminology. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/179 "2012-04-04T21:44:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, they are Lizard People, so I guess that’s really a question of terminology. I thought there were some reptiles that did the live birth thing? Ha, yes there are: Some lizards Solomon Island skink Blue-tongue skink Shingle-backed skink Some chameleons Jackson’s chameleon Some snakes All boas All vipers Garter snakes ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492/180 "2012-04-05T00:35:37Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > It’s possible that he sprang fully-formed from the brow of his father. Who was a time-travelling Osama Bin Laden. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-president-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-a-fake/614492.md?page=10)