# Sherlock January 15 2017 "The Final Problem" (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [January 15, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-january-15-2017-the-final-problem-open-spoilers/777270 "2017-01-15T22:44:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-january-15-2017-the-final-problem-open-spoilers/777270/121 "2017-01-30T20:09:33Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> You could be correct (that Moffat and Gatiss were impressed by “SPECTRE”). Certainly each has writing credits from years past in which to take pride, so it’s not as though they have no judgment in these matters. Could be a case of their deciding: ‘this [_Sherlock_] is a pre-sold, guaranteed hit—so why should we knock ourselves out coming up with a satisfying and coherent plot? The fans will eat it up even if it’s rubbish!’

Heh. You know, I wonder if this episode was the culmination of an approach meant to make their Sherlock the bestest ever in arguments. Oh, what’s that? Jeremy Brett’s version? What about Irene Adler, the woman who beat him? To _our_ Sherlock, she’s only “the woman who beat him” in that she was a domnatrix and had the hots for him; he totally out-clever-ed her in the end. His crowning achievement was matching wits with an archenemy like Moriarty? Well, _our_ version dealt with the real mastermind behind that mere patsy – and proved to be oodles smarter than Mycroft, too.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-january-15-2017-the-final-problem-open-spoilers/777270/122 "2017-01-31T01:17:51Z")

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It’s a Holmes for the Trump Era. Don’t agree he’s the bestest ever? Sad.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-january-15-2017-the-final-problem-open-spoilers/777270/123 "2017-02-01T16:24:54Z")

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I saw this thread and flashed back to the episode’s exploding-window scene. Man, it looked like it was from Magnum, P.I. or something. I really wish they’d left it alone after 3 series/seasons. It was great…when it was great. Didn’t end that way.

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