# sherlock series 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 18, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312 "2013-03-18T23:15:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/201 "2014-01-04T02:23:49Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> I think Tom is dodgy on the basis that Sherlock said something about it being better for her not to be infatuated with a psychopath, meaning himself and Molly muttered something about maybe that was her type.

On rewatching, he said sociopath (which is funny because I was thinking that sociopath was a better term, but thought he said psychopath the first time around).

Keep in mind whose number she’d gotten in the first series. Jim Moriarty. Sherlock misread Jim as being obviously gay, thus putting down Molly’s choice of men back then too.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/202 "2014-01-04T03:24:39Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> On rewatching, he said sociopath (which is funny because I was thinking that sociopath was a better term, but thought he said psychopath the first time around).
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> Keep in mind whose number she’d gotten in the first series. Jim Moriarty. Sherlock \*\*misread \*\*Jim as being obviously gay, thus putting down Molly’s choice of men back then too.

(bolding mine)  
\*Finally \*got it watched tonight, now I can read the thread!

Don’t know that was a misread, actually. We’re not privy to Moriarty’s sexuality, but it wouldn’t be surprising if he was actually gay, just overplaying it to make sure Sherlock got the hint. He’s a bit of a diva like that, and Sherlock seems to be endlessly gullible regarding the obviousness of other people.

I really liked all of the family stuff in the newest one, especially the parents.

I was a bit taken aback at the violence of the opening. That seemed to be really off tone for the way the show has been, and was really unsettling to watch (I had suspicions about who was in the chair). On the other hand, there was a remarkable restraint shown on the underground car, where I \*could \*have done with a bit of justifiable homicide. Very oddly played.

I liked the fan-theories getting picked at. I thought it was funny. They have to know that fans have gone nutso over theories ever since that episode, and nothing they can come up with will please everyone, and (possibly more importantly) nothing they can come up with hasn’t already been posted as a possibility all over the internet, leaving them open to the claims of having “stolen” some fan’s solution. If there’s no way to make everyone happy, and picking an option definitively might cause legal problems, thumbing their noses at the whole concept is an appropriate response.

Also, poor Anderson. I think he’s gone round the bend.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/203 "2014-01-04T03:57:49Z")

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It wasn’t a misread, Moriarty set up all the “gay” clues. I guess that sort of counts as a misread.

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/204 "2014-01-04T07:28:11Z")

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I was finally able to watch the first episode. Martin Freeman’s mustache for the first half-hour put me in a very foul mood. Thank goodness he got rid of it.

Overall, I enjoyed the episode. Except for the bit with the on/off switch, which pushed that scene a little too far. The sequence with John repeatedly slugging Sherlock and the group winding up in progressively worse restaurants was very funny, as was Sherlock and Mycroft playing Operation. I also enjoyed Mary’s character and I’m glad they’ve made her bright and supportive of the whole business.

Anderson has definitely gone round the bend. That end scene with the video camera, the vanishing Sherlock, and the reams of newspaper clippings tacked up everywhere gave me a strong vibe of “A Beautiful Mind.”

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/205 "2014-01-04T09:07:06Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> I was a bit taken aback at the violence of the opening. That seemed to be really off tone for the way the show has been, and was really unsettling to watch (I had suspicions about who was in the chair). On the other hand, there was a remarkable restraint shown on the underground car, where I \*could \*have done with a bit of justifiable homicide. Very oddly played.

Sure it was heavily implied but we all know the game; there wasn’t any actual violence shown, just a couple of fleshy sounds and accompanying grunts. Not a single gun either, iirc.

Kind of like - dare I menion it - Dr Who and a depiction of (anyone/things) death; just never going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/206 "2014-01-04T13:55:58Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> It wasn’t a misread, Moriarty set up all the “gay” clues. I guess that sort of counts as a misread.

It’s a testament to how great Moriarty was at fooling people that he fooled Sherlock. Not many can.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/207 "2014-01-04T23:36:36Z")

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> [@chizzuk](#):
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> the vanishing Sherlock

I don’t know why people keep saying this, Sherlock walked away. Anderson just had his back turned and missed it, but there was no reason for the audience to think that.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/208 "2014-01-05T18:51:18Z")

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We get our second episode tonight, folks!

Set your DVR’s!

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/209 "2014-01-05T19:04:53Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> We get our second episode tonight, folks!
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> Set your DVR’s!

It’s at a different time to the first episode, now at 8:30 pm GMT.

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**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/210 "2014-01-05T19:06:04Z")

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…This thread is torture to us 'merican dopers…

How much longer until January 29?

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/211 "2014-01-05T19:11:50Z")

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> [@phall0106](#):
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> …This thread is torture to us 'merican dopers…
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> How much longer until January 29?

I thought it was January 19.

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/212 "2014-01-05T19:17:04Z")

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I just can’t believe there is this Sunday, then next, then they’re done!

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**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/213 "2014-01-05T19:38:36Z")

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> [@Pai325](#):
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> I thought it was January 19.

Yes, 19th for those in the US.

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**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/214 "2014-01-05T20:00:54Z")

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> [@PaulParkhead](#):
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> Yes, 19th for those in the US.

That means I have less time to wait than I thought!

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/215 "2014-01-05T21:26:05Z")

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Oh Jesus, this is hilarious. Drunk deduction is the best.

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**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/216 "2014-01-05T21:30:47Z")

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I’m really enjoying this episode but I do have an overwhelming desire to punch the writers in the face…

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/217 "2014-01-05T22:00:56Z")

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That was awesome, best thing I’ve seen in ages.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/218 "2014-01-05T22:03:30Z")

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I think that worked…

There’s no lack of self-confidence among the writers anyway!

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**Author:** ![A\_Lethargic\_Prawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@A\_Lethargic\_Prawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Lethargic_Prawn)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/219 "2014-01-05T22:08:33Z")

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The stag do was hilarious, ‘Maintain the integrity of the crimescene’ made me teary. Also, I did have an inkling the stalker would play a bigger part. That said, I cannot wait for next Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/220 "2014-01-05T22:13:53Z")

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“The elephant in the room” was just such a wonderful throwaway line 😃

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