# sherlock series 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312 "2013-03-18T23:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/21 "2013-03-20T02:49:37Z")
I will probably buy the DVDs as well as watch it as soon as I can. I buy quite a bit from Amazon UK and things often get to me quicker than things I order from [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com). ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/22 "2013-03-20T05:43:38Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Fwiw, the drama output on British TV this past couple of months has been awesome - at least 5 stations really hitting form at once. > [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > It’s been a good run hasn’t it. Did you watch Utopia? What other shows have been good? I’ll keep an eye out for them. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/23 "2013-03-20T19:55:44Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > My best friend said that the first thing John and Sherlock are going to do is kiss. > I don’t think that’s going to happen. I think I read Mark Gatiss saying that Freeman’s John is more likely to let out a long stream of swear words rather than faint. And if he smacks Sherlock upside his head, it’d be even more in keeping with this John Watson. ETA: Really, American Dopers, there are so many of us _Sherlock_ fans here, I think we ought to pay an English Doper to record them and fly over here for a Sherlock-Dopefest. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/24 "2013-03-20T21:38:24Z")
I’d be tempted to take a British vacation when they show it. I’ll definitely buy the DVD, but I’ll have to wait for the US release. When the time comes, I’ll have to ask for viewing help from some of our more knowledgeable Dopers. StG ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/25 "2013-03-21T00:24:45Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > I think I read Mark Gatiss saying that Freeman’s John is more likely to let out a long stream of swear words rather than faint You have an excellent memory! > **[Sherlock series three: new details revealed](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9243417/Sherlock-series-three-new-details-revealed.html)** > > Mark Gatiss, the co-creator of the BBC's Sherlock, has revealed that the new series will begin with an episode based on The Adventure of the Empty House. > [@](#): > > “I always found it a little unlikely that Dr Watson’s only reaction was to faint for instance – as opposed to possibly a stream of terrible swear words” ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/26 "2013-03-21T02:15:43Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > I’d be tempted to take a British vacation when they show it. I’ll definitely buy the DVD, but I’ll have to wait for the US release. When the time comes, I’ll have to ask for viewing help from some of our more knowledgeable Dopers. > > StG That will be one nice, long, vacation! Do they show an episode a week? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/27 "2013-03-21T03:55:51Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > I think I read Mark Gatiss saying that Freeman’s John is more likely to let out a long stream of swear words rather than faint.\ Well, he _was_ in the army. 🙂 That scene from the last episode, with Watson at Holmes’ grave - damn. I knew Martin Freeman was good, but _damn_ - he was ripping my heart out! ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/28 "2013-03-21T04:20:17Z")
Cumberbatch fans should definitely check out _[Parade’s End](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade%27s_End_(TV_series))_, which HBO aired recently. It’s very different than _Sherlock_, but Cumberbatch and Rebecca Hall are fantastic as the leads. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/29 "2013-03-21T04:43:43Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > I think I read Mark Gatiss saying that Freeman’s John is more likely to let out a long stream of swear words rather than faint. > > And if he smacks Sherlock upside his head, it’d be even more in keeping with this John Watson. > > ETA: Really, American Dopers, there are so many of us _Sherlock_ fans here, I think we ought to pay an English Doper to record them and fly over here for a Sherlock-Dopefest. I forgot to mention that John, after the making out, is he supposed to stroke Sherlock’s cheekbones. ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/30 "2013-03-21T09:08:12Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > My best friend said that the first thing John and Sherlock are going to do is kiss. > I don’t think that’s going to happen. Maybe not, but we can dream, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/31 "2013-03-21T11:48:07Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > I forgot to mention that John, after the making out, is he supposed to stroke Sherlock’s cheekbones. But he could cut himself on those cheekbones! StG ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/32 "2013-03-29T11:26:57Z")
i agree with the sherlock dopefest idea. sherlock fans are going to shoots and reporting back. i think it is really nice that the show will ask them to be extras. spoilers are on youtube should you want to look. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/33 "2013-03-29T11:37:17Z")
So is there any plausible way for Holmes to be alive? I’m already pre-emptively rolling my eyes at whatever explanation they come up with that explains how Watson could see him fall off a building, run over to see the body and yet have him turn up several months later. Doyle was at least smart enough to kill him “off-camera”, and he didn’t even intend to bring him back. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/34 "2013-03-29T15:51:32Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > So is there any plausible way for Holmes to be alive? I’m already pre-emptively rolling my eyes at whatever explanation they come up with that explains how Watson could see him fall off a building, run over to see the body and yet have him turn up several months later. > > Doyle was at least smart enough to kill him “off-camera”, and he didn’t even intend to bring him back. I won’t hunt for the thread where we advanced our theories a few months ago, but I’ll repost mine here, spoilered: [spoiler]Sherlock actually jumped into a parked truck whose bed was full of puffy bags of something. You can just see the edge of the truck pulling away from the curb in one later shot from above. John was on the other side of another, low building and so didn’t see the actual impact. Before John came around the edge of the low building, Sherlock jumped out of the truck bed and onto the sidewalk, contriving to bloody himself at the same time. He clenched a rubber ball (you’ll see him playing with one in an earlier scene) in his armpit to block his pulse so he felt dead when John touched his wrist. All this took the help of Molly and Mycroft to pull off. Molly to supply blood and hospital personnel, and Mycroft to supply an appropriate truck and media spin afterwards.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/35 "2013-03-29T16:19:13Z")
I love the show, but have to laugh at the word “series”. Three episodes per season? Sherlock is a “series”? In the USA, three episodes would either be called a “mini-mini series” or be called a flop that was pulled from the airwaves. OK, OK - so you can’t put a price or number on “quality”, but still - three shows does not exactly a series make. Gotta love Brit TV - give the audience what it wants, but only a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/36 "2013-03-29T16:40:50Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I love the show, but have to laugh at the word “series”. > Three episodes per season? > Sherlock is a “series”? > In the USA, three episodes would either be called a “mini-mini series” or be called a flop that was pulled from the airwaves. > > OK, OK - so you can’t put a price or number on “quality”, but still - three shows does not exactly a series make. > > Gotta love Brit TV - give the audience what it wants, but only a bit. I know what you mean, but each episode is 90 minutes. That’s movie length (ish). ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/37 "2013-03-29T16:50:13Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > I won’t hunt for the thread where we advanced our theories a few months ago, but I’ll repost mine here, spoilered: > > [spoiler]Sherlock actually jumped into a parked truck whose bed was full of puffy bags of something. You can just see the edge of the truck pulling away from the curb in one later shot from above. John was on the other side of another, low building and so didn’t see the actual impact. Before John came around the edge of the low building, Sherlock jumped out of the truck bed and onto the sidewalk, contriving to bloody himself at the same time. He clenched a rubber ball (you’ll see him playing with one in an earlier scene) in his armpit to block his pulse so he felt dead when John touched his wrist. > > All this took the help of Molly and Mycroft to pull off. Molly to supply blood and hospital personnel, and Mycroft to supply an appropriate truck and media spin afterwards.[/spoiler] I’m glad someone else shares my theory at least. My husband and my entire friend group think that Sherlock guilted Molly into providing a body double from the morgue, and Mycroft into surgically altering the face to match. While I suppose that’s possible, I like our theory better - more simple, more elegant, more immediate. I honestly don’t know what I’m going to do with myself until it comes out. I might actually explode from impatience. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/38 "2013-03-29T16:58:15Z")
Yay! So looking forward to it! In the meantime, there’s fanfiction… I’m gonna see if the Blu-Ray is available for preorder from [Amazon.uk](http://Amazon.uk). BluRays aren’t region locked, that’s how I got my all-4-series-of-Torchwood for $30 less than at [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com). ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/39 "2013-03-29T17:10:39Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > I’m glad someone else shares my theory at least. My husband and my entire friend group think that Sherlock guilted Molly into providing a body double from the morgue, and Mycroft into surgically altering the face to match. While I suppose that’s possible, I like our theory better - more simple, more elegant, more immediate. > > I honestly don’t know what I’m going to do with myself until it comes out. I might actually explode from impatience. See if any of the alternate-theory people in your group are willing to back their opinion with some $$$. Bet you (and I) will win. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312/40 "2013-03-29T17:12:20Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I love the show, but have to laugh at the word “series”. > Three episodes per season? > Sherlock is a “series”? > In the USA, three episodes would either be called a “mini-mini series” or be called a flop that was pulled from the airwaves. \*se·ries [seer-eez] Show IPA noun, plural se·ries, adjective noun 1. a group or a number of related or similar things, events, etc., arranged or occurring in temporal, spatial, or other order or succession; sequence. 2. a number of games, contests, or sporting events, with the same participants, considered as a unit: The two baseball clubs played a five-game series. 3. a set, as of coins or stamps. 4. a set of successive volumes or issues of a periodical published in like form with similarity of subject or purpose. 5. Radio and Television. a. a daily or weekly program with the same cast and format and a continuing story, as a soap opera, situation comedy, or drama. b. a number of related programs having the same theme, cast, or format: a series of four programs on African wildlife.\* One has to give credit to the Brits for both not drawing out a concept suitable for four to six hours into twenty-odd forty five minute episodes (e.g. _24_), or trying to compress a story of similar length into feature film length (e.g film adaptations of _Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy_, _State of Play_). British “series” such as _The State Within_, _Luther_, and _Sherlock_ are the length they are for a reason; that there is no need to draw them out over more episodes. The quality of the resulting product–which is crafted to maximize dramatic impact, rather than to merely provide filler between commercials–is obvious. Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherlock-series-3/653312.md?page=3)