# Sherri Papini purported abduction (Update: She has been sentenced for faking her own kidnapping) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 25, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976 "2016-11-25T17:23:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/181 "2016-12-31T01:32:26Z")
So I’m reading about this Uber driver who called the cops about a young girl being trafficked for sex by two women in Elk Grove, California, a suburb of Sacramento, which is near where Sherri Papini was found. In looking at the article [here](https://twitter.com/ElkGroveNews/status/813928216784084995/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) I see the two women might possibly fit the description of Sherri Papini’s abductors. While one is Hispanic and the other black, it’s conceivable that Papini mistook the black woman as being Hispanic given that her head was covered most of the time that she was in the company of those women. Panini reported that one of the women had curly hair and the other had straight hair, which fits this pair too. I’m thinking the authorities should be looking pretty closely at these two women and that they try to find out whether the black one speaks Spanish. I realize this hypothesis is a long shot but wouldn’t it be an excellent confluence of events if it turned out that this Uber driver’s heroics led to the resolution of the Sherri Papini case? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/182 "2016-12-31T02:04:46Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Interesting article about reddit " sleuths" examining tend case: > [Entertainment and Media - MarketWatch](https://heatst.com/life/gone-girl-have-internet-sleuths-solved-the-kidnapping-case-of-super-mom-sherri-papini/) It isn’t that interesting. It is just a bunch of internet bullshit from people that have no idea what they are talking about. Almost every point in that article is pure speculation, condescending personal opinion or completely false. The only point that holds any water is that it was odd to get a hostage negotiator and set up a reverse ransom from an anonymous benefactor in a case where someone is just plain missing with no announced suspects or even a proven kidnapping but the Reddit bloodhounds didn’t come up with that on their own. None of that explains how or why someone would hurt themselves that badly and end up 150 miles away from home (everyone that examined her immediately after she was found claims the injuries and branding are real). I have no idea what happened or why but that type of piss poor speculation is getting anyone any closer to the truth. She probably was kidnapped for whatever reason in my opinion but she may know way more about the circumstances behind it than she is letting on because of illegal or immoral activity that she doesn’t want to be outed for. It has happened before. Three-time track and field Olympian [Suzy Favor Hamilton](http://people.com/sports/olympic-runner-suzy-favor-hamilton-describes-working-as-a-las-vegas-call-girl/) got herself into a whole heap of personal and financial trouble by becoming a high-priced Las Vegas call-girl despite being a mother of a young child and supposedly happily married. She didn’t need the money and says she only did it for the thrill because she has bipolar disorder. I suppose it could be something like that if she had a deal go bad. Off course, the latter is just my own piss-poor speculation and worth the pixels this post is written in until the real facts emerge. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/183 "2016-12-31T02:35:10Z")
As a Shasta County Resident (Redding Area ) I can say for certain that Sherri was not on a Bender with her two Mexican National Bisexual female lovers … ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/184 "2017-03-31T12:33:27Z")
Update: \*"A 911 call log from 2003 recently released by California police reveal that the mother of Sherri Papini, the 34-year-old woman who went missing for three weeks in November after she claimed she was kidnapped while jogging, told police that her daughter was “harming herself and blaming it on [her.]” A call log from the Shasta County Sheriff’s Office dated Dec. 17, 2003, indicates that Papini’s mother, Loretta Graeff, alleged that her then-21-year-old daughter had been harming herself and blaming it on her. The log, obtained by The Sacramento Bee and shared with ABC News, also states that Loretta Graeff wanted “advice” because her daughter was planning on moving back in with her. The report, only two sentences long, does not detail whether police found evidence that Papini, in fact, harmed herself… The Shasta County Sheriff’s Office told ABC News that while the investigation into Papini’s alleged abduction is still “open and ongoing,” the community should not be concerned by potential kidnappers on the loose." \* > **[911 call logs shed light on 'Super Mom' Sherri Papini's past](https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-super-mom-sherri-papini-told-police-daughter/story?id=46477176)** > **[Officials silent on Sherri Papini kidnapping case as old report surfaces...](https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article141599034.html)** > > Thirteen years before Sherri Papini told Shasta County detectives she was abducted and tortured for weeks by two female kidnappers, her mother called the same law enforcement agency to ask for help with her daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/185 "2017-03-31T12:54:26Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Why would you leave town permanently and not take your dogs? I cannot imagine that. I can’t imagine it either, that doesn’t make any sense. If I were leaving, my dog is coming with me. Why would they leave them behind? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/186 "2017-03-31T14:33:43Z")
Is that really all the updates there are since December? I mean, the cops can’t find the rather cartoonish kidnappers in all this time? Not that some criminals don’t get away, but from the descriptions there must be many significant leads to follow and LE these days is good at weaving small strands into a solid case. DNA, tire tracks, eyewitness, narrow locale, surveillance footage, license plate recording… really? They just vanished without a trace after holding a PWG for weeks? Are the cops even working the case any more, or is it officially “a breakthrough is expected soon”? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/187 "2017-11-08T19:57:38Z")
[new info:](http://www.newsweek.com/sherri-papini-1-year-later-cops-say-details-dont-line-california-moms-700262) > [@](#): > > The Shasta County Sheriff released a three-page update in the case last week, which deepened the mystery further and showed details of the case simply weren’t adding up, including Papini’s claim that it was two women who took her and held her captive. > > The DNA found on Papini’s clothing and skin tested as male and female—a curious detail since Papini said she was only with two women. The male sample did not match her husband’s DNA. [and](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri-papini-case-new-video-shows-california-mother-before-she-was-found/) > [@](#): > > Sheriff’s detectives have released new video of a woman just moments before she was found in Yolo County on Thanksgiving, CBS Sacramento reports. > > The grainy video shows Sherri Papini running past the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the city of Yolo. Detectives say she was dropped off in the area by one of her captors. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/188 "2017-11-08T23:35:09Z")
I’ll bet the slurry of DNA evidence in/on this woman’s clothes would keep a CSI team on over-time for quite a while. And we still wouldn’t get to the bottom (so to speak) of this hoax. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/189 "2017-11-08T23:54:46Z")
The video seems to show a person in genuine distress. Sherri didn’t know she was on camera. A person staging a scene would have casually sauntered up to the road. A year later and this case is still perplexing. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/190 "2017-11-09T04:26:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The video seems to show a person in genuine distress. I am amazed you deduced state of mind from a vague, grainy distance shot of a running figure. Have authorities yet announced that area residents have nothing to fear from Hispanic kidnapperettes? I’d expect that to be the next revelation. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/191 "2017-11-09T05:19:17Z")
Wonder when the book is coming out? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/192 "2017-11-09T05:44:00Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I’ll bet the slurry of DNA evidence in/on this woman’s clothes would keep a CSI team on over-time for quite a while. And we still wouldn’t get to the bottom (so to speak) of this hoax. Perhaps one of the two was a trans woman; that would allow Ms Papini’s story to be accurate as far as she could have known, and would account for the DNA evidence. Hey, stranger things have happened. Not to me, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/193 "2017-11-09T06:44:42Z")
IMO, the talk about DNA on her person and clothing is meaningless. IIRC, Papini said she was blindfolded much of the time. A male could have come in contact with her clothing while she was blindfolded and she wouldn’t have known the difference. Further, there is no way to determine, at least based on what the police have released so for, when the DNA they found came into contact with her. It would be interesting to know just what kind of DNA they found and where they found it. And while we’re on the subject, I’m surprised that no one has yet ferreted out the guy that she’d been texting and trying to set up a meeting with. I know the police have said that he’s been exonerated, but even so you’d think that someone in the media would have discovered who he is by now and and sought an explanation as to his relationship with and/or the nature of his text message history with Sherri Papini. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/194 "2017-11-09T06:46:45Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I am amazed you deduced state of mind from a vague, grainy distance shot of a running figure. Wasn’t his rationale for the deduction explained in the part of his post that you left out? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/195 "2017-11-09T08:42:41Z")
I’m starting to think you’re the man she was texting based on how invested you are in this story. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/196 "2017-11-09T13:37:39Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Wasn’t his rationale for the deduction explained in the part of his post that you left out? No. Unless one believes that running = being in distress, which probably explains the horrific moaning and cries of anguish at track and field events. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/197 "2017-11-09T17:10:47Z")
Running at night, across a deserted parking equals distress for me. I would certainly be concerned if I saw a woman running under those circumstances. I’d offer my assistance or offer to call 911 and get her help. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/198 "2017-11-09T17:16:49Z")
I don’t know what happened in this case. No one does except Sherri. Some parts of her story seem fishy and others seem true. > [@](#): > > Papini was found with hose clamps on both of her ankles. Her left wrist was zip-tied to a chain around her waist. > > Detectives say they were able to make out some of those details in the video which led them to believe it was in fact, Sherri Papini. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/199 "2017-11-09T20:25:59Z")
**Quote:** _Papini was found with hose clamps on both of her ankles._ Bonus! Free hose clamps! ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976/200 "2017-11-09T21:06:36Z")
She had kidnap/submission/BDSM fantasies; she pursued one; it went wrong; she didn’t want it to continue; her Dom/Master got carried away (to say the least); he was not capable of killing her (but capable of harming her as per the lifestlye/fantasy); he dumped her somewhere; she needs a story, so she was kidnapped by two masked women. /End [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sherri-papini-purported-abduction-update-she-has-been-sentenced-for-faking-her-own-kidnapping/772976.md?page=11)