# She's back: Palin to run for Congress {She lost 2022-08-31}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 2, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151 "2022-04-02T14:21:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/41 "2022-04-10T02:07:16Z")

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Couldn’t tell you, as I don’t think I ever saw it. There used to be a blond woman by the name of Alison. She did real estate part time and was a news anchor also, but gave up the latter. She sold our condo for us and was a really great person. Otherwise, no clue.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/42 "2022-04-11T18:01:28Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> a former turd of a senator who was drummed out of office in disgrace

Newt, (if that’s who you’re referring to) was Speaker of the House, not a Senator. /Nitpick

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/43 "2022-04-11T18:28:14Z")

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He was a turd in any capacity.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/44 "2022-04-11T20:28:30Z")

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Oops. I seem to be making these errors more and more as my age advances.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/45 "2022-04-11T20:33:15Z")

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If they had made the moon the 51st state like Newt wanted, you could have called him Governor Gingrich.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/46 "2022-04-11T20:42:19Z")

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I suspect she is as crazy as the situation requires her to be to stand out. MTG has raised the bar and Palin will probably be happy to lift her game to get over it.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/47 "2022-04-11T21:06:35Z")

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Even Paul Jenkins, the right-wing op-ed columnist for the Anchorage Daily News, had nothing good to say about her, saying in part:

“Alaskans should be cringing at the thought of her representing Alaska in Congress.”

and

“The grim prospect of Palin loose in the U.S. House of Representatives with the likes of Greene, Boebert and Gaetz should scare the bejeebers out of us all. As governor, she was a magnet for ethics complaints and showed herself to be uninterested, uninvolved, vindictive and the unabashed master of facile generalizations.”

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/48 "2022-04-11T21:18:34Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> "… a magnet for ethics complaints and showed herself to be uninterested, uninvolved, vindictive and the unabashed master of facile generalizations.”

Geez, it’s like she wrote the book for Trumpism (which makes her the ideal 2022 GOP candidate).

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/49 "2022-04-11T22:01:55Z")

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Everyone who interviews her should ask what percentage of her term she plans to serve.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/50 "2022-04-11T22:09:11Z")

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She’d probably serve all of it. She’s no longer viable reality show material.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/51 "2022-04-12T11:11:33Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> She’s no longer viable reality show material.

Do they ever have former politicians on your _Dancing With The Stars_, or something similar? The equivalent is an established thing over here and contributes [much](https://youtu.be/oTlRufBoeYg) to the [gaiety of nations](https://youtu.be/Czqtjk_iGFU).

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/52 "2022-04-12T11:34:55Z")

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Yeah, we have that kind of drek, also. In fact, Leaky Giuliani caused a stir recently when he was revealed as a masked singer. But Palin wouldn’t quit a cushy Congress gig for something like that.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/53 "2022-04-12T13:24:01Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> She’s no longer viable reality show material.

True. If she could get a job, she wouldn’t be running.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/54 "2022-09-01T00:13:29Z")

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Seems she lost to a Dem

> **[Democrat Mary Peltola wins special U.S. House election, will be first Alaska...](https://www.adn.com/politics/2022/08/31/democrat-mary-peltola-wins-special-us-house-election-will-be-first-alaska-native-elected-to-congress/)**
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> Peltola, a former state lawmaker from Bethel, topped Republican former Gov. Sarah Palin after ballots were tallied and votes for third-place GOP candidate Nick Begich III were redistributed to his supporters’ second choices.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/55 "2022-09-01T00:19:15Z")

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The tally now stands at once a quitter and twice a loser.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/56 "2022-09-01T00:52:33Z")

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Hopefully Mary will be able to do this again in November.

So today crist resigned, lose one; and peltola wins, gain one.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/57 "2022-09-01T01:33:41Z")

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During the campaign Palin reportedly trashed Begich, the moderate Republican who finished third in the first round of voting. Consequently, 29% of Begich voters elected not to make a second choice. If about a quarter of those exhausted ballots had named Palin, she would be heading for Washington right now.

Dumb move, Sarah. But how could we expect anything else?

You can’t really draw a conclusion from one election but it _is_ evidence that RCV helps moderate candidates and hurts the most extreme.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/58 "2022-09-01T14:03:06Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> You can’t really draw a conclusion from one election but it _is_ evidence that RCV helps moderate candidates and hurts the most extreme.

Yes, absolutely.

And to a lesser extent it should moderate attack-based politics. You can’t trash your opponents too hard (or in petty ways) if you need their voters to put you as a second choice.

The irony is that if Begich had come second in round one he certainly would have won this race since it’s very unlikely a large number of Palin voters put the Democrat second choice.

So to some extent what it does is make popular (within their party) but extreme candidates harm their own parties. Which, of course, is why the GOP hates it right now. They are stuck in this spot where their most extreme candidates have a majority of the party, but the minority of the party is so turned off by them that they would rather have the other party win than the extremists.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/59 "2022-09-01T14:52:27Z")

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Because the template has been set, some fascinating questions now arise for the November election.

Will Palin voters vote the same way and hope that a higher turnout puts her over the top? Or will some of them switch their first choices to Begich, reasoning that she’s a lost cause and that having a moderate Republican win is better than a Dem victory? Or will those Begich voters who declined making a second choice throw their votes to Palin this time?

How Palin approaches the campaign will give us a clue to the final results.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-back-palin-to-run-for-congress-she-lost-2022-08-31/962151/60 "2022-09-01T15:01:44Z")

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Very happy for her, for Alaska Natives, and for Alaska in general. I think there is a certain amount of burnout there with the same old names being recycled in politics year after year. The Begich name is totally shopped. His heirs have run for office many times, trying to cash in on the original Nick Begich, with varying degrees of success. His son Mark Begich was a real opportunist and even managed to get into Ted Stevens’ seat for one term. Peltola is a new face and name and she seems to be sincere as well as personable. I wish her luck.

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