# She's been dead for 10 years. Let it fucking go already. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486 "2007-10-04T12:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/121 "2007-10-07T00:40:00Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] 287 _thousand_ people died in the 2004 tusnami. 231 _thousand_ people died in a senseless pointless flood in China in 1975. A lot more than 3000. A cyclone in Bangladesh in 1970 killed 500 _thousand_ people in Bangladesh. 250 _thousand_ more in Bangladesh in 1991. People just like you and me. And that weather is still out there, ready to strike again. If volume is one of your factors for sympathy, this should put 3000 in perspective. My guess is none of these survivors or relatives are still prattling on about these events like 9/11. If you’re just so concerned about humanity, there’s are a lot worse tragedies out there- the Sudan perhaps? And fuck you right back. And if you knew someone who died on 9/11, I said in more than one post that’s obviously a different story. [/QUOTE] WTF? OF course this is a tragedy. And more so than fucking Princess Fucking Diana. ---
**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/122 "2007-10-07T01:37:34Z")
There is a recurring rumor that Dodi al Fayyeed (or whatever his name is ) was seen in Dallas on the day JFK was assassinated. Coincidence? I think not. Also he was reported to have received a phone call warning him to stay out of the Twin Towers on 9/11. part of a conspiracy? You be the judge. Or was that Princess Di herself who got the phone call? She was already dead? Well, that is a convenient exciuse, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/123 "2007-10-07T01:51:06Z")
[QUOTE=movingfinger] Or was that Princess Di herself who got the phone call? She was already dead? Well, that is a convenient exciuse, isn’t it? [/QUOTE] A likely story…since when has death been a valid excuse? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Testy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@Testy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Testy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/124 "2007-10-07T07:22:12Z")
I’m firmly in the STFU about it camp but I don’t think it’s the fault of the Brits. Hell, it’s Americans that won’t let it go. None of the Brits I know either living here or in the UK give a rat’s-ass about Diana. A lot of them didn’t care for her too much when she was alive and care even less now. OTOH, I mentioned to an American that I thought Diana was “moderately good-looking but dumb as a brick” and thought he was going to have a stroke. There is some kind of cult-like obsession with Diana that I have never been able to fathom. She married the future King and decided she couldn’t stand him. Or maybe he couldn’t stand her, who knows? Also, who cares? I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them. And what is the big deal with Prince Charles having some fancy piece on the side? Royalty everywhere has wenched and whored since there **was** such a thing as royalty. Hell, women are one of the perks of the job. I think it was a US politician that said that; “power is a good aphrodisiac.” FWIW, the Royal I like best and would really miss is Prince Phillip. That guy’s good value for money and no bullshit about him. Testy ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/125 "2007-10-07T08:24:05Z")
[QUOTE=movingfinger] There is a recurring rumor that Dodi al Fayyeed (or whatever his name is ) was seen in Dallas on the day JFK was assassinated. Coincidence? I think not. [/QUOTE] As he would have been about 7 years old at the time, and was in boarding school in Switzerland, it seems pretty unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/126 "2007-10-07T11:47:22Z")
[QUOTE=EJsGirl] We have a similar lameness here with JFK. Public persona was of a young, handsome, principled visionary, while behind closed doors he was an asshole. No matter- people who should know better continue to worship the guy. Hell, my mother-in-law cried her eyes out when JFK Jr. killed his fiance and himself, because she is still so hung up on his dad. [/QUOTE] Wait a minute. Kennedy was the sitting _President_ at the time, with actual, formidable responsibilities. He had steered this country through some very rough waters, both domestically and abroad, such as the Cuban missile crisis and racial tensions brought on by segregation. Yes, he also happened to be a handsome, wealthy guy, but to reduce him to the same level as Princess Di is ridiculous. Lovely as she was, she wasn’t responsible for anyone save her two kids and herself, nor, incidentally, was she gunned down like a dog while going about her business. You didn’t have to even like Kennedy to be deeply impacted by his assassination. There are two reasons why 9/11 and Kennedy’s death stick with people. First, the murders happened in broad daylight, on our own soil and happened to be filmed so we felt like we experienced it in real time. And secondly, the murders struck a tremendous blow to the national psyche. Both left us with a lingering sense of unease knowing that we have an enemy amongst us and have no idea who it is and when he’ll strike again. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/127 "2007-10-07T15:41:35Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] [Good point](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9042695&postcount=81). 😉 [/QUOTE] Damn me to heck for thinking I came up with something in page 3 of a thread that hadn’t been brought up before. Curse you, OtakuLoki, I shall have my revenge! \ Marc ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/128 "2007-10-07T21:18:17Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] 287 _thousand_ people died in the 2004 tusnami. 231 _thousand_ people died in a senseless pointless flood in China in 1975. A lot more than 3000. A cyclone in Bangladesh in 1970 killed 500 _thousand_ people in Bangladesh. 250 _thousand_ more in Bangladesh in 1991. People just like you and me. And that weather is still out there, ready to strike again. If volume is one of your factors for sympathy, this should put 3000 in perspective. [/quote] Yeah, and if **Guin** had tried to claim that 9/11 was worse than the tsunami in '04, she’d be a right fucking moron, wouldn’t she? Now compare that to the claims you’ve made in this thread about Princess Di. > [@](#): > > My guess is none of these survivors or relatives are still prattling on about these events like 9/11. Jackass. ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/129 "2007-10-07T22:18:10Z")
Gloriously stupid and ignorant rant, **Cubsfan**. Quite oustanding. [QUOTE=Cubsfan] And for some reason those damn Brits can’t get her off their minds. [/quote] Which ‘damn Brits’ are you referring to? There are over 60 million ‘Brits’. How many of us actually care one iota about Di or her death? You have no idea. For all you know, 50,750,000 of us could not care less. It’s at best a sloppy generalisation and at worst a racist rant. What’s more, I know that this is the Pit and all, but even so… if you had bothered to stop and think for even a moment, you would have realised that most of the agitation for a formal inquest has come from Mohamed Al-Fayed, who is _not_ British. > [@](#): > > The British justice system keeps flogging that dead horse (no pun intended) with the latest of what seems like many “inquests” into her death. As has already been pointed out to you, Captain Genius, this is in fact the **first** British inquest. The others must be in your imagination. So now you’re pitting events that have only happened in your imagination, somewhere deep inside your tiny mind. Smart? Not so much. > [@](#): > > Chirst, keep that shit out of our news you goddamn Brits. We, the British people, do not decide what is or is not covered by **your** news media. ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/130 "2007-10-07T22:20:06Z")
[QUOTE=Testy] I mentioned to an American that I thought Diana was “moderately good-looking but dumb as a brick” [/QUOTE] Marvellously accurate summary. Congrats. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/131 "2007-10-07T23:20:41Z")
[QUOTE=t-bonham@scc.net] As he would have been about 7 years old at the time, and was in boarding school in Switzerland, it seems pretty unlikely. [/QUOTE] That’s what they _want_ you to think. He was actually in Dallas in 1963 for the ground breaking of his secret TV studio, a facility that would prove vital to the Freemasons when they filmed the moon landing six years later. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/132 "2007-10-08T03:52:36Z")
Brit chiming in to say that I have virtually no interest in Princess Diana. I “let it go” a few seconds after I heard the news. I know of no friends or relatives that regard her death as anything to occupy more than a few neurons over the last decade. ---
**Author:** ![Testy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@Testy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Testy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/133 "2007-10-08T04:22:57Z")
[QUOTE=ianzin] Marvellously accurate summary. Congrats. [/QUOTE] **ianzin** Thank you. Most of the Brits I know (with the exception of **Wee Bairn** ) regarded her the same way many Americans do the First Lady. Not something particularly important. If she didn’t have a billionaire pushing for this inquest she’d be completely forgotten-about by now. Regards Testy ---
**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/134 "2007-10-08T04:50:09Z")
[QUOTE=Testy] OTOH, I mentioned to an American that I thought Diana was “moderately good-looking but dumb as a brick” and thought he was going to have a stroke. There is some kind of cult-like obsession with Diana that I have never been able to fathom. [/QUOTE] My mom has always been a big fan of gossip magazines, so I was able to follow the Diana tabloid narrative from way back. You couldn’t ask for a better soap opera to sell magazines. Diana wasn’t simply presented as someone who married a royal and then decided she couldn’t stand him. She was portrayed as a young girl who got suckered into marrying a man she thought loved her, only to find out he was in love with someone else. Prince Charles had apparently been considered hot back in his day, but he became a villain. It was rarely suggested that she’d been anything other than a saint with fashion sense, and she was portrayed as dying just as she had found some happiness. ---
**Author:** ![Testy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@Testy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Testy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/135 "2007-10-08T05:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=Fionn] My mom has always been a big fan of gossip magazines, so I was able to follow the Diana tabloid narrative from way back. You couldn’t ask for a better soap opera to sell magazines. Diana wasn’t simply presented as someone who married a royal and then decided she couldn’t stand him. She was portrayed as a young girl who got suckered into marrying a man she thought loved her, only to find out he was in love with someone else. Prince Charles had apparently been considered hot back in his day, but he became a villain. It was rarely suggested that she’d been anything other than a saint with fashion sense, and she was portrayed as dying just as she had found some happiness. [/QUOTE] **Fionn** Yeah, a cross between a soap-opera and a fairy tale. I dislike the worship business but have to agree that it will certainly sell magazines. I wonder when we’ll get a movie. So, Charles got made out to be the bad guy in all of this. I don’t particularly like the guy but there was something wrong with Diana from the start. Regards Testy ---
**Author:** ![slaphead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@slaphead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slaphead)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/136 "2007-10-12T13:50:29Z")
[QUOTE=ianzin] most of the agitation for a formal inquest has come from Mohamed Al-Fayed, who is _not_ British. [/QUOTE] Yeah, and isn’t he pissed about that. Mohamed “Thieving Arab” Al-Fayed thought he’d finally finally got his entree into the upper circles of British society, since his brat was going to marry Princess Dimbo and get her knocked up. Finally, he’d get given a british passport and people would stop treating him like a dog turd covered in really tacky sequins. And then what happens? His idiot son and idiot alleged bride-to-be get killed in a car crash, because of the drunken incompetence of daddy’s employee. So ever since he’s been running round claiming that MI6 (no known covert skills, or indeed skills of any kind) acting on the orders of Prince “Give me a gin and punch that slitty-eyed foreigner” Philip had them assassinated and then flawlessly hushed the whole thing up - yeah, THATS a much more likely scenario. According to the front of someone elses newspaper on the train, he’s currently spending something like $1.5M a year promoting this theory, and has dozens of people working full-time on keeping The Perfect Media ShitStorm going. Fucking pack of skunk-raping coyotes the lot of them. And I haven’t met anyone from the UK who gives a toss about Princess Dull-but-Dim in the last decade, most of the worshippers of Her Worthlessness seem to be foreigners. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/137 "2007-10-12T15:13:21Z")
I don’t know a single person who cares at all about Diana, though they wouldn’t be friends for long if they did. What’s the problem with selecting the media that you consume to avoid the pap though? I read decent newspapers and sometimes watch decent TV news programmes, where Diana is barely mentioned, if at all. Surely it’s only by buying into crappy media that we encourage its production? And **Wee Bairn** , you have the logic of a Small Baby. Please stop it before I’m forced to exhume your saintly princess and skull-fuck her. ---
**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/138 "2007-10-12T15:19:26Z")
I’m not going to sift through all these pages of Diana stuff but I wanted to say that my co-worker came into my office yesterday to say that Princess Diana was _not_ pregnant when she died. This is huge news now? NOW? You know who else is not pregnant? ME! I’m not! No one is writing any articles about that one. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/139 "2007-10-12T15:47:43Z")
[QUOTE=lobstermobster] I’m not going to sift through all these pages of Diana stuff but I wanted to say that my co-worker came into my office yesterday to say that Princess Diana was _not_ pregnant when she died. This is huge news now? NOW? You know who else is not pregnant? ME! I’m not! No one is writing any articles about that one. [/QUOTE] Not yet but wait until you croak 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Arch\_Trout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arch\_Trout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arch_Trout)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486/140 "2007-10-13T01:27:16Z")
Reiterating what many have said, I’m British and cared not a jot about Diana pre or post death. In fact, I’ve never met anyone that actually gave a shit about her one way or the other. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-been-dead-for-10-years-let-it-fucking-go-already/421486.md?page=8)