# 'she's dead jim' from google chrome. where does the saying come from?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 1, 2013, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077 "2013-10-01T10:25:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/21 "2013-10-01T21:20:03Z")

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I’ve always thought you could summarize ST:TOS with the single line:

“Oh, for god’s sake, she’s _dead_, Jim!”

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/22 "2013-10-01T21:24:17Z")

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> [@Scubaqueen](#):
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> Okay better question for ST:TOS fans (that, and I’m just plain curious to see how long it takes someone to come up with the answer):
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> In which episode did Bones say it _ **first** _? 😃
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> I await your collective brilliance.

“The Man Trap,” the first episode aired on September 8, 1966? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/23 "2013-10-02T03:30:16Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> Reminds me of a story:
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> Way back in the olden days before email, a memo (remember them?) was circulating round the UK Ministry of Defence. Various people added comments to it and passed it on, as was the usual practice. When it got to Colonel Blank, he took great exception, scrawled ‘Round Objects’, and sent it back.
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> When the minister read the memo and the comments, he added a note to the civil servant in charge - “Who is Round, and to what does he object?”

Why did he write Round Objects on a memo? I don’t get it 😕

The TV version doesn’t make any sense either. Is this a Britishism?

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/24 "2013-10-02T03:43:37Z")

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I thought “she’s dead, Jim” was said to King James I upon the death of Queen Elizabeth in 1603. 😕

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/25 "2013-10-02T08:26:46Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> Why did he write Round Objects on a memo? I don’t get it 😕
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> The TV version doesn’t make any sense either. Is this a Britishism?

It’s a sanitized version of the immediately preceding (in the show) “Cobbler’s awls!”\* = “Balls!” (as in “testicles”).

In British English, this is like saying “Bullshit!”

\*Cockney rhyming slang. In CRS, you say only the word that _doesn’t_ rhyme, in this case “Cobbler’s!” The second word is understood.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/26 "2013-10-02T08:35:11Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> Why did he write Round Objects on a memo? I don’t get it 😕
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> The TV version doesn’t make any sense either. Is this a Britishism?

The payoff joke is, of course, that whoever read the memo next completely misinterpreted the comment, i.e., took “Round objects” to be a proper noun and a verb rather than an adjective and a common noun.

Quite clever writing, actually! 🆒

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/27 "2013-10-02T08:54:38Z")

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there is a scene in ‘the mask’ movie. setting is in the bar and he grasps his badge and goes on a tirade. coughing, feigning death. sure ‘she’s dead, jim’ was in there too, hence my association with a cowboy movie.

but google using it to let you know the plugin has crashed. why would they do it?

i mean you could say something else…for non merkan users.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/28 "2013-10-02T09:01:30Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> google using it to let you know the plugin has crashed. why would they do it?
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> i mean you could say something else…for non merkan users.

I just Googled the phrase and got 154,000 results, chock-full of references to Star Trek.

Even if you’ve been living in a vacuum since 1966 and have never heard of ST: TOS, the gag shouldn’t be that hard to figure out!

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/29 "2013-10-02T09:04:32Z")

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no, no i’m in china and google is blocked. sorry. was recalling where i heard it.

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/30 "2013-10-02T09:06:19Z")

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i wasn’t born in '66. don’t assume everyione is a startrekker. some people are well. YOUNGER.

we’re into vampire slayers and we didn’t have a crush on han solo from star wars.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/31 "2013-10-02T13:13:48Z")

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As always, there is a [relevant XKCD strip.](http://xkcd.com/1262/)

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/32 "2013-10-02T13:18:56Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> no, no i’m in china and google is blocked. sorry. was recalling where i heard it.

Apparently they block the shift key too.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/33 "2013-10-02T13:26:55Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Apparently they block the shift key too.

Shush! It’s not polite to talk about that.  
:rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/34 "2013-10-02T14:43:40Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> i wasn’t born in '66. don’t assume everyione is a startrekker. some people are well. YOUNGER.

Dude, my parents hadn’t even met when the series ended, so don’t trot out that “some of us aren’t old farts” crap on me. That show was in fairly heavy syndication for nearly 30 years after it went off the air, it’s been satirized on everything from _Futurama_ to _SNL_. Some things just reach a level of cultural saturation that it’s reasonable to absorb the broader strokes and catch-phrases without actually experiencing them firsthand.

I’ve only seen a handful of episodes of the original series, and I doubt I could tell you the plot of any of the ones I’ve actually seen. But even I can tell you that Tribbles are some kind of round furry thing that multiplies like crazy, that your evil twin from a parallel universe has a goatee, that Kirk slept with a green chick, that wearing a red shirt on an away mission marked you as cannon fodder, that Scotty “cannae go any faster, sir” because he was “a-gi’in’ all she’s got” and that dammit Jim, Bones was a doctor, not a \_\_\_\_.

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/35 "2013-10-02T14:51:35Z")

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my question has been answered and there is no need for your rant in general questions.

‘dude’.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/36 "2013-10-02T15:16:18Z")

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> [@CrazyCatLady](#):
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> Wearing a red shirt on an **away mission** marked you as cannon fodder.

Pssst! In _ **TOS** _, they were called “landing parties.” 😉

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/37 "2013-10-02T15:24:23Z")

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pssst…i have never watched star trek.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/38 "2013-10-02T16:03:03Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> pssst…i have never watched star trek.

And…? 😕

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/39 "2013-10-02T17:45:52Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> i wasn’t born in '66. don’t assume everyione is a startrekker. some people are well. YOUNGER.
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> we’re into vampire slayers and we didn’t have a crush on han solo from star wars.

Oh no, don’t you lump me in with that crap. I’m YOUNGER also, and I would like to make it clear that Han Solo is QUITE hot, and vampires are overdone and annoying, unless they’re getting staked by Buffy. Age has nothing to do with cultural illiteracy,  
thankyouverymuch. Even if it is a sub-culture.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shes-dead-jim-from-google-chrome-where-does-the-saying-come-from/670077/40 "2013-10-02T18:21:29Z")

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Clearly this is a result of giving everyone trophies.

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