# Shia LaBeouf arrested at performance of Cabaret on Broadway

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 27, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780 "2014-06-27T14:57:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/21 "2014-06-28T04:24:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Not substance abuse? I have no idea about Shia LeBeouf, but this kind of behavior sounds to me like alcohol or drugs or both.

If it is, it’s certainly more than just smoking pot. Of course, some people suffering from some types of mental illness use things like marijuana to self medicate. See the recent case of Amanda Bynes, for example. The neglect of personal hygiene, delusional thoughts and statements, etc. are listed as symptoms of schizophrenia. Like I said, I have no training in this and only know what little I’ve read about it online. I just find it hard to believe that a wealthy movie star would stop bathing, act completely unhinged in public, make delusional statements, etc. unless he was experiencing some sort of mental illness or breakdown. I imagine there could be extenuating circumstances which led to this, but it just looks to me like he’s actually having some sort of mental problem. I know there are people on here that are actually professionals and have experience in this field. Maybe they can offer some insight.

> **[Schizophrenia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia)**
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> Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized variously by hallucinations (typically, hearing voices), delusions, disorganized thinking and behavior, and flat or inappropriate affect. Symptoms develop gradually and typically begin during young adulthood and are never resolved. There is no objective diagnostic test; diagnosis is based on observed behavior, a psychiatric history that includes the person's reported experiences, and reports of others familiar with the person.\[ About 0.3% to 0....

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/22 "2014-06-28T04:35:14Z")

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Big day out for Shia apparently. [Chasing a homeless guy for a hat](http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/27/shia-labeouf-arrested-studio-54-aol-welcome/) was just a prelude.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/23 "2014-06-28T04:37:55Z")

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…or maybe it was all just an act.  
[http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/26/showbiz/shia-labeouf-charged/index.html?hpt=hp\_t4](http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/26/showbiz/shia-labeouf-charged/index.html?hpt=hp_t4)  
I have no idea.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/24 "2014-06-28T04:48:12Z")

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Out of interest how does legal aid work in the US? In Australia no multi-millionaire would ever be represented by a legal aid lawyer. It is very difficult to get free representation in Australia even if you are not very well off.

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> Represented by a legal aid lawyer during his brief court appearance, the actor was formally charged with criminal trespass, disorderly conduct and harassment.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/25 "2014-06-28T11:39:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Not substance abuse? I have no idea about Shia LeBeouf, but this kind of behavior sounds to me like alcohol or drugs or both.

You must know some really strange drunks.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/26 "2014-06-28T12:12:08Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Yep, I’m more inclined to be sympathetic and worry about him than take pleasure and accuse him of a “desperate need for attention”.

I’m going for narcissistic attention whore for $500, Alex.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/27 "2014-06-28T12:50:43Z")

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> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> I’m going for narcissistic attention whore for $500, Alex.

I guess you have no idea how easy it would be for him to get attention without being arrested.

Chasing homeless guy after a cap would have done it.

As a former psych nurse I’m going to vote for in need of professional help. No-one chooses to look like a lunatic.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/28 "2014-06-28T13:02:29Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> No-one chooses to look like a lunatic.

Actors have done very similar things to promote upcoming projects.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/29 "2014-06-28T13:17:17Z")

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But this isn’t an isolated incident.

[Timeline of Shia LaBeouf’s most shocking moments: From child star to troubled actor](http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/shia-labeouf-timeline-most-controversial-3131093)

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/30 "2014-06-28T13:44:09Z")

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Joaquin Phoenix never fooled me. Just sayin. We shall see.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/31 "2014-06-28T13:48:03Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Joaquin Phoenix never fooled me. Just sayin. We shall see.

I almost posted these words!

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/32 "2014-06-28T18:30:12Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> If it is, it’s certainly more than just smoking pot. Of course, some people suffering from some types of mental illness use things like marijuana to self medicate. See the recent case of Amanda Bynes, for example. The neglect of personal hygiene, delusional thoughts and statements, etc. are listed as symptoms of schizophrenia. Like I said, I have no training in this and only know what little I’ve read about it online. I just find it hard to believe that a wealthy movie star would stop bathing, act completely unhinged in public, make delusional statements, etc. unless he was experiencing some sort of mental illness or breakdown. I imagine there could be extenuating circumstances which led to this, but it just looks to me like he’s actually having some sort of mental problem. I know there are people on here that are actually professionals and have experience in this field. Maybe they can offer some insight.  
> [Schizophrenia - Wikipedia](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia)

That was my WAG too.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/33 "2014-06-28T22:09:03Z")

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It’s annoying for me because I saw a trailer for _Fury_ yesterday and it looked good and I was thinking this might be the first Shia LaBeouf movie I wanted to see. And then he has to go and remind me what a dickhead he is.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/34 "2014-06-29T02:59:42Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s annoying for me because I saw a trailer for _Fury_ yesterday and it looked good and I was thinking this might be the first Shia LaBeouf movie I wanted to see. And then he has to go and remind me what a dickhead he is.

That movie has Brad Pitt, too. Meaning it has to suck ass. ☹

How do these actors keep getting cast?? They (actor) cost a bazillion, and the movie still fails to deliver.

Being an actor must royally suck.

And I stand by my previous post.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shia-labeouf-arrested-at-performance-of-cabaret-on-broadway/691780/35 "2014-06-29T03:20:38Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> Out of interest how does legal aid work in the US? In Australia no multi-millionaire would ever be represented by a legal aid lawyer. It is very difficult to get free representation in Australia even if you are not very well off.

Unless he suddenly went broke overnight, it’s not likely he’ll continue to be represented by a public defender.

From what I can tell this was just a bail hearing and he was charged with some minor offenses like trespassing. Typically, this is just a formality. A busload of prisoners charged with various petty offenses is marched in front of a judge who typically releases them with a small bail or on their own recognizance. To speed things along a public defender or two is assigned to stand next to them. He could have called his own lawyer, but apparently was being uncooperative the previous night. And he could have demanded his own lawyer which would have meant he’d have to go back to jail until that could be arranged.

It’s basically an assembly line designed to get the prisoners in and out in just a few minutes. Most assuredly, when he comes back for his next hearing he will have his own lawyer.

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