# Shirley MacLaine explains the Holocaust **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539 "2015-02-13T04:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/21 "2015-02-13T14:55:14Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Proof of disease of mind. She used to be a fairly rational human being. Nah, she was a nutter from way back, but she has become more open about it over time. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/22 "2015-02-13T14:59:05Z")
What the deuce?! ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/23 "2015-02-13T15:04:22Z")
“Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour…” Try it yourself. Or watch Cosmos. And then decide if you really care about Shirley. Or Nazis. Or humanity. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/24 "2015-02-13T15:21:38Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > What kind of heinous crime did she commit in an earlier existence in order to be born this dumb? I shudder to think. Being Shirley McLaine is her crime. Luckily, it’s also her punishment. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/25 "2015-02-13T15:25:04Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > Being Shirley McLaine is her crime. Luckily, it’s also her punishment. When she appeared on _Downton Abbey_, it became \*\*\*our \*\*\*punishment. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/26 "2015-02-13T16:17:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Obviously I don’t follow this philosophy, but those seem to be valid expressions of the karmic ideals, at least as Mahayana Buddhism expresses them. Or am I mistaken? Yes, of course they are. But they’re so smug - and combined with the wrongness, they piss us off. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/27 "2015-02-13T16:25:17Z")
Irrationally rationalizing under the auspices of religion is still blaming the victim. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/28 "2015-02-13T16:35:39Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > She must be feeling her irrelevance. It was James Randi who pointed out that MacLaine’s original spiritual era just seemed to coincidentally coincide with her star and abilities as an actress and dancer fading. This is one last dramatic gasp before the darkness, I guess. Think of it, however, the next time any celebrity stands up and tries to “educate” us about bad things in the world. I don’t think there’s a lot of difference between a Jenny McCarthy, a Shirley MacLaine or any brainless prettyboy prattling about something he doesn’t really understand, even if it’s “benign” and “positive.” ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/29 "2015-02-13T17:35:18Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Doesn’t seem right that a whole geographic region has to suffer just to get back at Mengele, unless everybody in the same area is reborn Nazis. And then we’d have to worry about them invading their neighbors with better food. My homeland has been invaded by, among others, the Italians, the Chinese and the indians. All of whom brought better food. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/30 "2015-02-13T17:46:03Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > AIU New Age doctrine, the Holocaust victims were not even being punished, they were just acquiring new experiences essential to their spiritual evolution, and so were the Nazis. What does “AIU” stand for, in this context? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/31 "2015-02-13T17:47:21Z")
As I Understand, AIUI. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/32 "2015-02-13T18:06:28Z")
SM has long been a dingbat. She has now added disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/33 "2015-02-13T20:03:03Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > If karmic economics do exist, I think your exchange rates are a bit off here. OK then how about they come back a and spend the next[500 years as a clam](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_%28clam%29) before their allowed to reincarnate again. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/34 "2015-02-13T21:08:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > AIU New Age doctrine, the Holocaust victims were not even being punished, they were just acquiring new experiences essential to their spiritual evolution, and so were the Nazis. At least, that is how a “channeler” once explained it to me. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/35 "2015-02-13T21:13:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > AIU New Age doctrine, the Holocaust victims were not even being punished, they were just acquiring new experiences essential to their spiritual evolution, and so were the Nazis. Sooo… learning how to turn human skin into lampshades is an experience necessary to spiritual evolution? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/36 "2015-02-13T21:14:53Z")
Shirley, you can’t be serious. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/37 "2015-02-13T21:23:43Z")
She is serious, and don’t call her surely. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/38 "2015-02-13T21:29:19Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Nah, she was a nutter from way back, but she has become more open about it over time. Ok, ok. Actually, when I made that post I was thinking of Bette Midler, for whatever reason. Now that I have things in the correct perspective, I concur. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/39 "2015-02-13T22:52:11Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > The Apartment is still one of the greatest movies ever made, so at least there’s that. QFT. And she was so gorgeous in it. Turns out she’s a fuckwit (I knew before that she’s a nutter, but not this level of crazy). ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539/40 "2015-02-13T22:54:55Z")
Well anyway, I’m glad we’ve got the Holocaust figured out. I was beginning to think we’d _never_ understand why it happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-maclaine-explains-the-holocaust/712539.md?page=3)