# Shirley Ujest, Shirley Usuck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896 "2005-09-22T15:27:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/21 "2005-09-22T19:42:39Z")
> [@Amazon Floozy Goddess](#): > > It was in very bad taste. Who knows the reason for it. I’m pretty confused about the choice of smiley as well. I don’t know, something about it is just…off. I mean, she doesn’t usually go around making comments like that (from what I’ve seen). It’s out of character. > > Maybe she didn’t really understand the seriousness of the situation, or someone hijacked the computer while she was logged in, or it could just be a very bad attempt at lightening the mood. > > In any case, I don’t think she seriously meant to hurt **Tripler** or be a jerk. There’s got to be more than meets the eye here. Good grief. IMHO, making jokes about odd ways folk have died has a long standing tradition here. Darwin awards anyone? It seemed to clear to me that **Shirley** had gotten a mental image about a caftan wearing/Uzi toting bovine and it caused the giggles. where things went wrong IMHO: 1. I’m not a fan of sympathy threads in the PIt in the first place. Yes, it was a shitty thing to happen but really I didn’t see **Tripler** raging against the bovines in question, not even the fates/what have you that set about this ironic set of events. Just an acknowledgement of “this is shitty”. and I doubt that any replies other than the traditional sympathetic ones would have been welcome, either. (as in any statement about the IRaq situation in general, any suggestion that the guy himself was at fault for the accident - remember when some numb nuts told **jodi** that if she’d hit two deer while driving it’s obviously her fault?). He needed and wanted sympathy, therefore the thread in question would have been better suited for MPSIMS in my most humble non mod like opinion. placing it in this forum makes it more likely to garner attention that wasn’t desired. 2. And, **Shirley** erred by not recognizing there’s a difference in that type of comment in a general thread vs. a thread about some one specific and personal to the poster. IOW, had the OP been some one who’d merely read about the accident and was commenting on the irony of a guy about to deploy to Iraq getting killed in a routine accident, maybe it wouldn’t have been such a sore spot. In any event, sympathy to **Tripler** ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/22 "2005-09-22T20:21:26Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Has she ever been funny, even once? er, yeah. Count me in as one who looks for Shirley’s threads, and perks up when she sees that Shirley has added to a thread. She’s one of my favorite posters. I’m with **PunditLisa** - So she made an off-color joke. Big deal. She apologized, and this is a really lame pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/23 "2005-09-22T20:33:14Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > er, yeah. Count me in as one who looks for Shirley’s threads, and perks up when she sees that Shirley has added to a thread. She’s one of my favorite posters. > > I’m with **PunditLisa** - So she made an off-color joke. Big deal. She apologized, and this is a really lame pitting. Well summarized. Me too. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/24 "2005-09-22T20:39:25Z")
I’d understand if the pitting if she defended her joke and went on like she did nothing wrong, but she hasn’t. She realized her mistake, apologized and hasn’t done it again. What more do you want? ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/25 "2005-09-22T20:41:47Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > My friend died of Alzheimer’s today. > > “I haven’t laughed so hard since…what were we talking about?” 😃 Og help me – I actually find that amusing! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/26 "2005-09-22T20:44:41Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > She realized her mistake, apologized and hasn’t done it again. The fuck she did. Read the thread. She made a lame ass disclaimer at the bottom of the original post. She has yet to apologize. This is probably because she isn’t aware of this thread yet of course. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/27 "2005-09-22T20:56:10Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The fuck she did. Read the thread. She made a lame ass disclaimer at the bottom of the original post. She has yet to apologize. This is probably because she isn’t aware of this thread yet of course. Yeah, no kidding. In fact, if she had the presence of mind to note that her “joke” (if you can call it that) was inappropriate, why the fuck did she post it? She has not been back to apologize, in spite of **Tripler** ’s rightful reprimand. I guess it’s just a driveby. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/28 "2005-09-22T21:14:19Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > Really, Shirley was just trying to throw in some Bush-bashing. After all, if you are serving in the military, you _must_ be fighting a war on terrorists. So if you were killed in the military, you were killed by terrorists. Since the guy was killed by a cow, the cow was a terrorist. Hardy fucking har har. So you don’t like the war, that’s fine. Go protest it and stop dissing the guy with your cow terrorist shit. Uh, what? Don’t try to pawn this off on us Bush bashers. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/29 "2005-09-22T21:25:38Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > Really, Shirley was just trying to throw in some Bush-bashing. After all, if you are serving in the military, you _must_ be fighting a war on terrorists. So if you were killed in the military, you were killed by terrorists. Since the guy was killed by a cow, the cow was a terrorist. Hardy fucking har har. So you don’t like the war, that’s fine. Go protest it and stop dissing the guy with your cow terrorist shit. Um, **Duke** , sure it was a lame joke but I think you are overanalyzing this a bit. Remember, we are in a war on terrorism hence the joke. Your analysis was as thin as a dead anorexic. See, I am not good at dark humor either so I will stop now. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/30 "2005-09-22T21:38:37Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Your analysis was as thin as a dead anorexic. . This is actually pretty funny. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/31 "2005-09-22T21:42:27Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Um, **Duke** , sure it was a lame joke but I think you are overanalyzing this a bit. Remember, we are in a war on terrorism hence the joke. Your analysis was as thin as a dead anorexic. See, I am not good at dark humor either so I will stop now. I only put the analysis in there in case somebody missed the Bush Bash (I know, no much of a chance, it was pretty transparent). I don’t have any problem with a Bush Bash, it’s not like one doesn’t pop up every ten minutes or anything. What I didn’t care for was a thinly veiled Bush Bash masquerading as a joke at the expense of **Tripler** ’s dead buddy. Some people around here will stop at nothing to get a jab in to push some agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/32 "2005-09-22T21:48:23Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > What I didn’t care for was a thinly veiled Bush Bash masquerading as a joke at the expense of **Tripler** ’s dead buddy. Some people around here will stop at nothing to get a jab in to push some agenda. Where do you get the Bush bashing from? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/33 "2005-09-22T21:54:58Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > I only put the analysis in there in case somebody missed the Bush Bash (I know, no much of a chance, it was pretty transparent). > > I don’t have any problem with a Bush Bash, it’s not like one doesn’t pop up every ten minutes or anything. What I didn’t care for was a thinly veiled Bush Bash masquerading as a joke at the expense of **Tripler** ’s dead buddy. Some people around here will stop at nothing to get a jab in to push some agenda. So transparent, in fact, that you seem to be the only person who sees it… ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/34 "2005-09-22T22:27:06Z")
Hey, everybody, at the risk of being pitted myself… Lighten up, dudes! **Shirley’s** OK in my book. Y’all are revealing a deep-seated lack of a sense of humor. Those who are objecting to her dividing line just have their line in a slightly different place. It’s a relative placement, not an absolute. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/35 "2005-09-22T22:58:17Z")
What **Musicat** said. It’s just gallows humor, hardly worth a Pit thread. And to me, it’s stunningly, immediately obvious that the smilie was supposed to be a Wally, not a Happy Jewish Man, because one normally completes the self-deprecatory phrase “I’m such a…” with the word “…putz”, not “…Jew”. ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/36 "2005-09-22T23:28:45Z")
> [@Duck Duck Goose](#): > > What **Musicat** said. It’s just gallows humor, hardly worth a Pit thread. Yes, but quite possibly one of the best puns of a thread title ever. 😃 Adam ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/37 "2005-09-22T23:30:07Z")
> [@Mississippienne](#): > > Yes, but quite possibly one of the best puns of a thread title ever. 😃 > > Adam Sigh…nothing spoils a good chuckle like posting under the wrong handle. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/38 "2005-09-22T23:36:26Z")
With all these hers and shes, I guess majority rules. I was always under the impression S U was male ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/39 "2005-09-22T23:47:10Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > Y’all are revealing a deep-seated lack of a sense of humor. Oh please. SU’s punchlines couldn’t make a third grader laugh. If there’s ever a poster I scan over, it’s her. ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896/40 "2005-09-22T23:58:01Z")
I am in the “love ya, Shirley, but this one wasn’t the best” camp. It was a mistake, but don’t let it get ya down. JohnBuckWLD, having met Shirley, I can assure you that she is female. Well, not in the sense that I saw her naked or anything, but I was pretty sure. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shirley-ujest-shirley-usuck/322896.md?page=3)