# Shocking, Disturbing Restaurant Assault Vid: Woman Allegedly Beaten Into a Seizure As Employees Laug **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398 "2011-04-22T20:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Raskolnikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@Raskolnikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raskolnikov)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/1 "2011-04-22T20:05:09Z")
[http://www.theblaze.com/stories/disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laugh/](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laugh/) The details on the following attack are fuzzy.\* What you see is two woman mercilessly attacking another in a McDonald’s. But that doesn’t really do the video justice. The two women repeatedly punch and kick the woman in the head while she lies in the fetal position on the ground. They then drag her across the floor by her hair near the door, where they continue the beating. All the while, the employees stand by laughing (although one seems to give a half-hearted vocal attempt to stop the madness, and another eventually tries to step in). Eventually, it appears the woman is beaten so badly she has a seizure According to a description from the video site LiveLeak, the person filming the incident coaches the attackers to flee: The two black females exit, then re-enter the store to continue the beating, until an older white woman attempts to stop them from dragging the white victim outside into the parking lot. note: the black male employees have disappeared from camera view, even though they are plenty well capable of stopping the attack. At the end, the white victim is beaten until she has a seizure, at which point the camera operator warns the black female attackers to flee, because the police are on the way. Note: he makes sure to repeatedly tell the criminal attackers to flee, instead of keeping them there for the police to apprehend. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/2 "2011-04-22T20:11:55Z")
I can’t get to the video from where I am right now, and I really don’t want to give Beck’s Blaze any click-through anyway, but I heard about this at lunch, on the radio when I was giving myself my daily blood pressure elevation check by tuning into Limbaugh for 15 minutes. Any idea what he was going on about with this shit (paraphrased): “You’ll need to wear an ‘I Love Obama’ t-shirt in fast food restaurants now if you don’t want to get beaten to death.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/3 "2011-04-22T20:16:36Z")
Is there a topic for debate here? I’ll be the first to make the brave stand that beating the shit out of helpless people is a bad thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/4 "2011-04-22T20:20:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’ll be the first to make the brave stand that beating the shit out of helpless people is a bad thing to do. I agree – it’s wrong to beat up people like this. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/5 "2011-04-22T20:20:37Z")
I stand firmly with you against physical assault. I shout my opposition to bystander indifference. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/6 "2011-04-22T20:20:58Z")
I didn’t see anything in the video to explain why the attack occurred. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/7 "2011-04-22T20:21:50Z")
Resolved: Beating someone into a seizure is bad. Bring it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/8 "2011-04-22T20:30:05Z")
I have a debate topic. Why do conservatives care about other people’s physical health only when it is threatened by black people? Especially if there is video. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/9 "2011-04-22T20:32:45Z")
The OP fails to specify the race of the camera operator and the responding officers, so how can we judge _their_ actions? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/10 "2011-04-22T20:37:10Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I stand firmly with you against physical assault. I shout my opposition to bystander indifference. I would agree, but I don’t want to get involved. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/11 "2011-04-22T20:42:16Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I stand firmly with you against physical assault. I shout my opposition to bystander indifference. Bad username/post combo. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/12 "2011-04-22T20:46:26Z")
I’d like to be contrarian, but I think I’m going to have to concur with the majority here. Beating someone until they have a seizure is an immoral act. Implying that white people aren’t safe in restaurants with black people unless they agree with the current President because of a video in which absolutely no evidence of motive is presented is also immoral. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/13 "2011-04-22T20:54:12Z")
The article quoted by the blaze, which is credited as a description from LiveLeak, asserts that there were people present who could have stopped the fight, but didn’t. The McD folks may have policies about that (don’t want to be sued), dunno. But I am not willing to condemn anyone based on what (little) I saw in the video. (I think the store manager, a fella in a blue shirt, WAS involved the whole time.) But I guess a story is just not a news story unless there is some way to sensationalize it. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/14 "2011-04-22T21:00:31Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > But I am not willing to condemn anyone based on what (little) I saw in the video. (I think the store manager, a fella in a blue shirt, WAS involved the whole time.) Really? You don’t think the girls went too far in their beat down or you don’t think they should be condemned for it? Even not knowing what provoked them, once someone is lying on the floor in a fetal position, continued violence is assault and battery or worse. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/15 "2011-04-22T21:08:24Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > But I guess a story is just not a news story unless there is some way to sensationalize it. That video needs sensationalizing? With what, a sound track? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/16 "2011-04-22T21:08:34Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Really? You don’t think the girls went too far in their beat down or you don’t think they should be condemned for it? Even not knowing what provoked them, once someone is lying on the floor in a fetal position, continued violence is assault and battery or worse. Actually, unless it’s self-defense, it’s ALL assault and battery. Once someone is down, further battery could result in charges all the way up to attempted murder. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/17 "2011-04-22T21:13:13Z")
Anyone [Googled](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128) Baltimore beating McDonalds? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/18 "2011-04-22T21:20:54Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Really? You don’t think the girls went too far in their beat down or you don’t think they should be condemned for it? Even not knowing what provoked them, once someone is lying on the floor in a fetal position, continued violence is assault and battery or worse. No. To clarify, the article states that folks (not the participants) stood around laughing. Male employees (who are presumedly physically stronger than the females involved in the fight) did not attempt to stop the fight, but “dissappeared” instead. LiveLeak is quoted as “note: the black male employees have disappeared from camera view, even though they are plenty well capable of stopping the attack.” (Why mention the employees are black?) What I meant was I cannot blame some bystanders for not getting involved, especially as a few were. I said nothing about the original fight participants. > [@levdrakon](#): > > That video needs sensationalizing? With what, a sound track? No, I said it WAS sensationalised with the headline that reads “woman beaten into seizure as employees laugh”. That’s not the impression I got watching the video. The fella in the blue shirt I assumed to be the McD store manager, and he tried to intervene repeatedly. He just didn’t intervene with flying tackles, which is I guess what LiveLeak wants to see from the bystanders. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/19 "2011-04-22T21:33:48Z")
I would like to see a transcript of what was being said, by whom. I got maybe three words out of that video. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/20 "2011-04-22T21:45:18Z")
So what are we debating here? Two fat black chicks have less cause to beat up a skinny white cross dresser, than one of their own color? McDonalds dives in places like that are/are not good places to go for dinner and a show? What? Sorry, just not gettin’ it… 😕 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398.md?page=2)