# Shocking, Disturbing Restaurant Assault Vid: Woman Allegedly Beaten Into a Seizure As Employees Laug **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398 "2011-04-22T20:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/181 "2011-04-25T17:07:29Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I’m waiting for the two purveyors of racial justice (Rev.s Sharpton and Jackson) to weigh in on this!😕 No, but your post is. For that matter, your entire pathetic life is. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/182 "2011-04-25T19:32:44Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > I like all the tough guy keyboard commentators. Here’s what happens if you help a stranger in a fight: > > 1. they beat you up instead > 2. her friends laughing and egging them on and taping it beat you into a coma > 3. you get stabbed > 4. you get shot There were times when I did get involved. I’m still around. Sometimes you just have to just do what is right and to hell with the “noise” and the bull. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/183 "2011-04-25T19:51:42Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I’m waiting for the two purveyors of racial justice (Rev.s Sharpton and Jackson) to weigh in on this!😕 Why? What did race have to do with it? It may have been motivated by bigotry, but it wasn’t racial bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/184 "2011-04-26T02:27:03Z")
Since one of the girls is 14, can she be charged with a felony in Maryland? ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/185 "2011-04-26T06:59:59Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Eer…so by this reasoning I can use the ladies changing room next time I go swimming just by repeating “I am a lady”? Are you living as a woman 24/7? No? Then obviously not. Let’s not be ridamndiculous. The point is that there isn’t\*\*\* A\*\*\* surgery. There is no such thing as pre-op versus post-op where one magically confers the status of woman on someone and those who haven’t reached that magic threshold can’t be recognized as women socially _or_ legally. The “standards” vary by geography, which boil down to no standard at all. People have a right to self-determination and self-identification. If someone says that they _identify_ as a woman (not that on a given day that they’re\* dressed\* like a woman) then that’s who they are. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/186 "2011-04-26T07:11:50Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > Are you living as a woman 24/7? No? Then obviously not. > > Let’s not be ridamndiculous. The point is that there isn’t\*\*\* A\*\*\* surgery. There is no such thing as pre-op versus post-op where one magically confers the status of woman on someone and those who haven’t reached that magic threshold can’t be recognized as women socially _or_ legally. The “standards” vary by geography, which boil down to no standard at all. > > People have a right to self-determination and self-identification. If someone says that they _identify_ as a woman (not that on a given day that they’re\* dressed\* like a woman) then that’s who they are. 😃 That’s a bit different. And yes - I was just plucking hairs. I fully understand that it’s a process, and the key identifier (at least in the first instance) is how someone self identifies. Living as a woman, wants to be a woman = a woman (iin most cases) in my book. But I don’t think it’s helpful just to say “she said she’s a woman, so end of story” - it’s a little more complex than that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/187 "2011-05-01T22:22:43Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > This here was a real dick post. > [@Sampiro](#): > > Not if it’s been surgically removed. I thought it wasn’t actually _removal_ as such, more of a _reconfiguration_ thing, involving some internal tissue excision, followed by turning the member inside-out to convert it into a vagina. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398.md?page=9)