# Shocking, Disturbing Restaurant Assault Vid: Woman Allegedly Beaten Into a Seizure As Employees Laug

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 22, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398 "2011-04-22T20:05:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/81 "2011-04-23T16:05:53Z")

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Pony tail guy? Yeah, he sorta intervened, that big manly stud.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/82 "2011-04-23T16:23:53Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> And the reason transgendered use womens rooms is to avoid getting assaulted. So what’s plan B? Accessorized catheter bags?

From what I understand, before a transgendered person starts on the surgeries, s/he has to spend at least a year living as the desired gender. That is, a M2F person has to dress as a woman, and act like a woman…which includes using the women’s room.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/83 "2011-04-23T18:01:54Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> From what I understand, before a transgendered person starts on the surgeries, s/he has to spend at least a year living as the desired gender. That is, a M2F person has to dress as a woman, and act like a woman… **which includes using the women’s room**.

Except for that last (bolded) part, that’s my understanding too. AFAIK, it’s illegal in Maryland (and in most states) for a man to use the women’s restroom, and vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/84 "2011-04-23T18:04:07Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Does anyone honestly believe if two white women were beating a lone black woman into a seizure in a business filled with black employees not a single one of them would have intervened other than to film it on their cell phone?

I know, right? Black people are the worst.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/85 "2011-04-23T18:14:46Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I know, right? Black people are the worst.

It’s weird that when they’re kicking a transvestite into a seizure they’re quieter than they are in a movie theater.

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**Author:** ![StaudtCJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@StaudtCJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StaudtCJ)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/86 "2011-04-23T18:16:11Z")

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From what I’ve been reading on other websites, the lady who was beaten up appears to be a post-op, midtransition transsexual M2F. She has surgically created girlybits, has lived as a woman for a very long time, and is in the process of continuing varying feminization procedures such as jaw reshaping and other corrections. It’s a very sad situation.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/87 "2011-04-23T19:27:16Z")

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Damn, you read some really specific websites.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/88 "2011-04-23T19:44:37Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I know, right? Black people are the worst.

I know! They’re shitty tippers too.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/89 "2011-04-23T20:23:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Why would they behave any differently?
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> I suspect that if two white women were videotaped beating up a black transgendered woman, the righty attitudes would be completely reversed. The victim would be getting depicted as a vicious sexual predator.

“That’s racist!”

“Racist statement!”

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/90 "2011-04-23T20:33:26Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Why would they behave any differently?
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> I suspect that if two white women were videotaped beating up a black transgendered woman, the righty attitudes would be completely reversed. The victim would be getting depicted as a vicious sexual predator.

I suspect that you are an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/91 "2011-04-23T20:36:28Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> I suspect that you are an idiot.

I think it’s a fair assessment; racial bigotry runs deep on the Right.

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**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/92 "2011-04-23T20:43:36Z")

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> [@Nadir](#):
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> How much beating is too much?

Could we please focus on the real problem for a moment - violence? We all know the racist/hate/sexual orientation part is spicy and controversial here, but isn’t that merely an associated factor to the the actual crime of assault?

In that vein, I contend that beating a person to the point of causing a seizure (if it was not in fact, being faked) may under certain circumstances, meet the terms of the colloquial reference to beating someone “within an inch of their life,” and could reasonably be considered to constitute a good beating.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/93 "2011-04-23T20:51:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Nadir]  
In that vein, I contend that beating a person to the point of causing a seizure (if it was not in fact, being faked) may under certain circumstances, meet the terms of the colloquial reference to beating someone “within an inch of their life,” and could reasonably be considered to constitute a good beating.  
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If the seizure was not only 100% faked but the victim started the fight by calling them names and then throwing the first punch (which there’s of course no evidence she did either of course) these bitches still need to be behind bars for a long time. If they didn’t do any permanent harm it wasn’t for lack of trying and they belong in a cage. Any justification ended the first time they came _back_, and the guy shooting the video needs his life derailed as well. He might can justify taping it- evidence and all that- but YouTubing it and then defending it with “Tha was no woman!” hopefully earns him a little time and a lot of probation.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/94 "2011-04-23T21:09:26Z")

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Or community service in the form of a charity cage match against Epic Beard Man.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/95 "2011-04-23T22:01:01Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> The man who shot the video appeared to have done nothing to help. On the video, he’s heard telling the attackers that the victim is seizing and that police are on the way.

This sounds an awful lot like the last episode of Seinfeld.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/96 "2011-04-23T22:14:01Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> ???  
> I’m vaguely amused at the idea of this being a guy beaten up by two fat girls.

Then you are vaguely an asshole.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/97 "2011-04-23T22:20:56Z")

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Presumably Limbaugh and Drudge and any other righties who were appalled at black-on-white violence will now be very quiet and forget it ever happened since it’s just good old fashioned, red blooded, all American queer bashing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/98 "2011-04-23T22:30:36Z")

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They’re not fat.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/99 "2011-04-23T22:46:35Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> They’re not fat.

That one was. And did you see what sister was wearing? Ain’t right.

Come to think of it, my theory is all three were drag queen hookers and drug dealers and the reason no one intervened was because these three get into it every night.

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**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-disturbing-restaurant-assault-vid-woman-allegedly-beaten-into-a-seizure-as-employees-laug/579398/100 "2011-04-23T22:52:34Z")

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I’m guessing the verbal altercation started over something like an un-paid crack bill.

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